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I ride my personal scooter at 0~40 mph in the road and in the bike lanes. When I see for-rent scooters dumped blocking public commons, I stop and throw them in

I ride my personal scooter at 0~40 mph in the road and in the bike lanes. When I see for-rent scooters dumped blocking public commons, I stop and throw them in the nearest gutter, dumpster, sewer, or river to hold the companies responsible for their users monetarily. If I see a pizza-delivery robot going 5 mph in a bike lane, I'm going to kick it to the curb or run-over it. And, I'll make sure everyone else does the same. They can pay bike messengers who need the work rather than being job-stealing, pointless automation assholes.

r3drock 5y ago
I am curious about your rationale of throwing scooters in the river. Are you not aware that the batteries will leak and pollute the river?
- failwhaleshark 5y ago
  > will implies omniscient, inevitable certainty in an indefinite timeframe beyond the scope of reasonable >leak implies absolutely certainty of failure... from what failure mode and in what timeframe? > and pollute the river Pathos appeal. "You're a meanie to the fishies and dolphins who use a filthy drainage ditch masquerading as a river to spawn their entire species." You're clearly not an engineer, don't understand how these are manufactured, nor how these are life-cycled... with bloody GPS on them 24x7. Go away until you have something meaningful to add that doesn't sound like you actually create a 60k-page environmental impact report before putting on your shoes made from fossil fuels, animals, and/or (gasp!) "chemicals." > I am curious about your rationale of throwing scooters in the river. No, you're not, you're a do-nothing troll.
  - imtringued 5y ago
    >You're clearly not an engineer, don't understand how these are manufactured, nor how these are life-cycled... with bloody GPS on them 24x7. The grunts collecting these machines don't get paid enough to fish them out of the river. They're gonna get marked as missing and the company will replace them with a new one. Edit: For all I know they could end up building rescue robots that also get thrown into the river.
  - lupire 5y ago
    This user's HN profile is: "A human, like you, but not. Please be kind, rewind. " Yet a solid quarter of their HN comments are attacks and personal name-calling insults.
hytdstd 5y ago
what would it take for you to not destroy rental scooters? Would a docking system be preferable? I'm just curious, I personally ride a bike to get around, so I don't have a dog in the fight, so to speak.
- failwhaleshark 5y ago
  I don't have any problems with properly-stowed transportation implements. Docks take-up too much room and would suck-up real-estate from the public commonwealth for private, exclusive use... too much of that is already happening. Underutilized "bikeshare" pod programs stole large areas of curbside real-estate while offering nothing in return for all residents (unless they paid money). It's a Tragedy of the Commons-situation knowingly-created by these irresponsible, asshole rental companies for $$$ by not demanding proper parking from the asshole segment of their customer-base. I've seen piles of these goddamn things on street corners, rendering entire sidewalks unusable in orthogonal directions. Elimination of all asshats who throw scooters in the middle of public commons and thoroughfares. These incidents are why they are banned from large areas of town and on certain campuses. They should just be banned period. Full stop. Bring your own, or rent one you can carry and must return. Ephemeral transactionality leads to this sort of Idiocracy-backdrop bullshit: https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2018/03/bike-share-oversupply-in-china-huge-piles-of-abandoned-and-broken-bicycles/556268/ https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2018/03/bike-share-oversup...
  - hytdstd 5y ago
    Noted. I personally don't see a problem. The streets and sidewalk belong to the city; so the city is free to license them as it chooses.
imtringued 5y ago
What's worse? A pizza delivery robot going 5mph or a pile of kicked over delivery robots clogging up the sidewalk and bike lane?

r3drock 5y ago

I am curious about your rationale of throwing scooters in the river. Are you not aware that the batteries will leak and pollute the river?

failwhaleshark 5y ago
> will implies omniscient, inevitable certainty in an indefinite timeframe beyond the scope of reasonable >leak implies absolutely certainty of failure... from what failure mode and in what timeframe? > and pollute the river Pathos appeal. "You're a meanie to the fishies and dolphins who use a filthy drainage ditch masquerading as a river to spawn their entire species." You're clearly not an engineer, don't understand how these are manufactured, nor how these are life-cycled... with bloody GPS on them 24x7. Go away until you have something meaningful to add that doesn't sound like you actually create a 60k-page environmental impact report before putting on your shoes made from fossil fuels, animals, and/or (gasp!) "chemicals." > I am curious about your rationale of throwing scooters in the river. No, you're not, you're a do-nothing troll.
- imtringued 5y ago
  >You're clearly not an engineer, don't understand how these are manufactured, nor how these are life-cycled... with bloody GPS on them 24x7. The grunts collecting these machines don't get paid enough to fish them out of the river. They're gonna get marked as missing and the company will replace them with a new one. Edit: For all I know they could end up building rescue robots that also get thrown into the river.
- lupire 5y ago
  This user's HN profile is: "A human, like you, but not. Please be kind, rewind. " Yet a solid quarter of their HN comments are attacks and personal name-calling insults.

hytdstd 5y ago

what would it take for you to not destroy rental scooters? Would a docking system be preferable? I'm just curious, I personally ride a bike to get around, so I don't have a dog in the fight, so to speak.

failwhaleshark 5y ago
I don't have any problems with properly-stowed transportation implements. Docks take-up too much room and would suck-up real-estate from the public commonwealth for private, exclusive use... too much of that is already happening. Underutilized "bikeshare" pod programs stole large areas of curbside real-estate while offering nothing in return for all residents (unless they paid money). It's a Tragedy of the Commons-situation knowingly-created by these irresponsible, asshole rental companies for $$$ by not demanding proper parking from the asshole segment of their customer-base. I've seen piles of these goddamn things on street corners, rendering entire sidewalks unusable in orthogonal directions. Elimination of all asshats who throw scooters in the middle of public commons and thoroughfares. These incidents are why they are banned from large areas of town and on certain campuses. They should just be banned period. Full stop. Bring your own, or rent one you can carry and must return. Ephemeral transactionality leads to this sort of Idiocracy-backdrop bullshit: https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2018/03/bike-share-oversupply-in-china-huge-piles-of-abandoned-and-broken-bicycles/556268/ https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2018/03/bike-share-oversup...
- hytdstd 5y ago
  Noted. I personally don't see a problem. The streets and sidewalk belong to the city; so the city is free to license them as it chooses.

imtringued 5y ago

What's worse? A pizza delivery robot going 5mph or a pile of kicked over delivery robots clogging up the sidewalk and bike lane?