> But real long-term solution is of course, make it a felony to not have a provable permanent address Maybe not a felony. That makes the situation worse. I've

> But real long-term solution is of course, make it a felony to not have a provable permanent address Maybe not a felony. That makes the situation worse. I've been promoting the idea that: if you are arrested or arraigned (not even convicted) and don't have a permanent address you are transported to an unincorporated part of the state. Making it a misdemeanor to participate (either side) in begging/pan-handling would also help. If you aren't going to participate, you are de-facto opting out of the community benefits. If you want social services to function, make sure you are willing to give then a perm address. Following rules and being functional in society is what this whole waste of resources has been about. Note: One side of my wife family are these kind of people who don't follow "the rules" paranoid that the govt is watching them while being subsidized by the govt. They are living in filth from Needles CA to trailers (water trailer + living trailer) out in a flat, dead, parcel of desert near Bullhead AZ. At least they have addresses.