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I agree with this. Also how can they forget an option to “paste without formatting”? Copying stuff from other sources is extremely painful. At this point, I lea
by xyst 5y ago
I agree with this. Also how can they forget an option to “paste without formatting”? Copying stuff from other sources is extremely painful. At this point, I leave it as is. I don’t have time to micromanage each copy and paste.
Also teams has this arbitrary message character limit that makes it terrible for sharing large chunks of text (partial logs for example).
While the integrations with outlook (mail/scheduling) + teams works “well enough”, the experience of the app itself leaves something to be desired.
- bloopernova 5y agoI have to use the Mac plain paste shortcut all the time: shift+option+command+v (Ctrl+shift+v in windows, not sure about Linux) Definitely a helpful shortcut!
- xyst 5y agoDidn’t know OS’s had their own native plain paste shortcut. I’ll start using this, thanks!
- ceejayoz 5y agoI wish "paste without formatting" was the default, and you had to use the contortionist keyboard shortcut to include formatting.
- leejoramo 5y agoFor the cases were software or OS doesn’t support native plain text paste I create a similar shortcut in Keyboard Maestro (macOS) or AutoHotKey (Windows). As an extra measure I configure the macro to automatically type the text and not use the direct clipboard paste. This takes care of the situations were the app prohibited pasting.
- unknown_error 5y agoWow, that requires a lot of fingers. It's like an OS and fighting game all in one.
- wombatpm 5y agoSiliconGraphics machines had the Vulcan death grip that took two hands to force a reboot.
- bluefirebrand 5y agoMac Shortcuts are a nightmare, jeez.
- qlm 5y agoCan somebody explain why "paste with formatting" is so widely the default option? I have literally never wanted to paste with formatting and neither have multiple family members who have needed help with preventing it from happening.
- handrous 5y agoAll I can figure is that research/observation showed that: - Normal users often prefer to paste with formatting. - Normal users will never figure out how to do that if it's not the default. - Normal users will usually reluctantly accept paste-with-formatting even if it's not what they wanted—that is, it's only rarely entirely unacceptable for them. - Power users will figure out how to paste without formatting.
- unknown_error 5y agoYou think Microsoft, of Ribbon and Clippy and full-screen start menu ads, and 20 different control panels for the same settings, does UX testing...? The same Microsoft that can't decide whether normal users prefer Windows, Windows Phone, Zune, or Xbox interfaces, so they just go ahead and add a little of each to all of them? More likely they were just worried Slack was attacking their enterprise segment and killing Skype so they rushed a shitty product to market ASAP. "Embrace, extend, extinguish" has turned into "panic, copycat, repeat".
- 41b696ef1113 5y agoI imagine it stems from Powerpoint or Word. If I move bolded header text from the bottom of the page to the top of the page, it would be irritating to re-apply formatting. Once you have established this precedent, easy for it to infect the rest of the ecosystem.
- m-p-3 5y agoIMO if paste with formatting was assigned another shortcut like Ctrl+Shift+V and the default Ctrl+V was without formatting, that would be less frustrating.
- 52-6F-62 5y ago
- tenebrisalietum 5y agoPaste without formatting is Ctrl-Shift-V, isn't it? I don't know if I've ever tried it in Teams though.
- lttlrck 5y agoIt works consistently across all MS products I use including Teams and Office365.
- everdrive 5y ago>Also how can they forget an option to “paste without formatting” That's just Microsoft. I can probably count on one hand the amount of times I've wanted to actually retain source formatting. But, it's the default option on almost any microsoft product out there. And, apparently, on Teams it's not an option at all.
- unknown_error 5y agoI bet Teams secretly used Word xml style tags behind the scenes.
- wizzwizz4 5y agoNo, it's HTML. (Source: entirely too much familiarity with that heap of garbage.)
- Keyframe 5y agoCtrl+shift V... How about where's reply to a specific message on a desktop/web app? Isn't that like the basest of the basics? Audio and video quality is great however, millions of times ahead of Slack and a bit better than Zoom, but ever so slightly, from my experience.
- carom 5y agoMy trick for paste without formatting is to throw it in the url bar and copy it back out.
- dajohnson89 5y agoif you accidentally press enter, are you ok with the browser sending that information wherever it does?
- pwg 5y agoBetter to use notepad. The formatting goes away, and you can copy the text back out.
- sgtnasty 5y agoNothing is more painful than to watch others copy and paste complex linux commands from Teams into the terminal, and watch the shell get corrupted. Windows copy and paste has always been a mess for me. macOS seems to do it much better, but X11 middle click is the best.
- kyriakos 5y agoHack for the character limit is to share as code. Unfortunately that adds 3 clicks to the process.
- icey 5y agoPaste with formatting annoyed me so much I made a website that's just a giant textbox I can use to paste stuff into (https://qi.io https://qi.io)
- DangitBobby 5y agoNow that's going above and beyond.
- jyrkesh 5y agoFYI, Ctrl+Shift+V works as a paste without formatting shortcut in Teams. But for some reason I can't work out, they chose not to put it in the right-click UI.
- tyingq 5y agoI know there's Ctrl-Shift-V, but I use "PureText" on Windows so I can map my own hotkey. https://stevemiller.net/puretext/ https://stevemiller.net/puretext/
- DangitBobby 5y agoI always paste into the address bar of my browser to clear the formatting. Some other solutions here are probably better, though.
- analog31 5y agoFrom what I've seen, a lot of people just paste screen captures.