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So a small shop that can only pay 1 fresh bootcamp dev who is trying their hardest doesn’t get your business because they can’t keep up with several hundred Fro

So a small shop that can only pay 1 fresh bootcamp dev who is trying their hardest doesn’t get your business because they can’t keep up with several hundred Frontend google devs. Seems a little silly and absolutist.

ryandrake 5y ago
Most horrible UX comes from too much software, not to little. If it was a single dev, they’d probably not have time to implement all the popups, dickbars, newsletter reminders, full screen interruptions, and dark patterns. Horrible UX takes large engineering effort.
bschwindHN 5y ago
To be honest google makes pretty awful frontends so I'd say the small shop has an advantage here.
systemvoltage 5y ago
It is usually the opposite - large enterprises have horrible UX than a mom & pop small shop. Furthermore, just because you're small doesn't mean you cannot fix UX of the user. I don't throw my money at them in charity or pity for being small. There are some great small businesses, and many not so great. Absolutist argument is perhaps in the point you're making. I run a small side business with $2k/month in revenue and I damn well make sure that there are no annoyances to the user. This is standard expectation and has nothing to do with how big or small you are. We should all strive for excellence and not perpetuate mediocrity. Regarding silliness - it would be silly to keep going to a restaurant that has rude service. That's what you're saying essentially.
analog31 5y ago
It's a win-win. The small shop also can't afford to deal with this customer. Not to disparage either, but a first lesson for small businesses is that you can't chase every customer.
MattGaiser 5y ago
Eh, a very basic form can offer a solid (if ugly) user experience if you do not need too much validation.
contravariant 5y ago
There are levels of badness that can only be achieved through sheer talent or diligence. Both are red flags.
juped 5y ago
"several hundred google frontend devs" are the teams that cause these atrocities
benhurmarcel 5y ago
A small shop should just get a service like Squarespace or similar, not pay a dev.

ryandrake 5y ago

Most horrible UX comes from too much software, not to little. If it was a single dev, they’d probably not have time to implement all the popups, dickbars, newsletter reminders, full screen interruptions, and dark patterns. Horrible UX takes large engineering effort.

bschwindHN 5y ago

To be honest google makes pretty awful frontends so I'd say the small shop has an advantage here.

systemvoltage 5y ago

It is usually the opposite - large enterprises have horrible UX than a mom & pop small shop. Furthermore, just because you're small doesn't mean you cannot fix UX of the user. I don't throw my money at them in charity or pity for being small. There are some great small businesses, and many not so great. Absolutist argument is perhaps in the point you're making. I run a small side business with $2k/month in revenue and I damn well make sure that there are no annoyances to the user. This is standard expectation and has nothing to do with how big or small you are. We should all strive for excellence and not perpetuate mediocrity. Regarding silliness - it would be silly to keep going to a restaurant that has rude service. That's what you're saying essentially.

analog31 5y ago

It's a win-win. The small shop also can't afford to deal with this customer. Not to disparage either, but a first lesson for small businesses is that you can't chase every customer.

MattGaiser 5y ago

Eh, a very basic form can offer a solid (if ugly) user experience if you do not need too much validation.

contravariant 5y ago

There are levels of badness that can only be achieved through sheer talent or diligence. Both are red flags.

juped 5y ago

"several hundred google frontend devs" are the teams that cause these atrocities

benhurmarcel 5y ago

A small shop should just get a service like Squarespace or similar, not pay a dev.