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> Jobs are handing out more money with more flexibility than ever seen before. I'm in the UK and not seeing any of this.

draw_down 5y ago
Hilarious
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wayoutthere 5y ago
Y’all have Brexit to thank for that. All my clients relocated any technical work they had in the UK to Poland or the baltics.
- DoingIsLearning 5y ago
  It's a bit of coup out to jump on the British where somehow everything negative that happens is due to Brexit. As counter anecdata, I am in the Netherlands and I am (now, as much as before) receiving calls for job opportunities from UK based recruiters. They are for the majority concentrated around London, Oxbridge, Bristol, Manchester. Depending on where GP is based in the UK, the landscape and opportunities can be quite different. Irrespective of the politics and bitter emotions, London's VC funding scene is arguably the closest we have in Europe to SV/Seattle/NY and it will continue to play a role in making the UK relevant in the tech scene.
  - vanderZwan 5y ago
    The person you replied to wrote that all their clients "relocated any technical work they had in the UK to Poland or the Baltics". That's not politics and bitter emotions, that's sharing their own anecdotal data. Of course, one could criticize generalizing based on that one data point, but that's a different thing altogether.
    - the-dude 5y ago
      The comment you are commenting on literally(yes really) starts with blaming Brexit. How you can deny that is politics and bitter emotions is literally beyond me.
      - vanderZwan 5y ago
        Saying that Brexit is the cause of something based on one's experience with clients, expressed in a way that suggests that it did not positively or negatively affect themselves in any way, does not strike me as particularly bitter, but suit yourself.
        the-dude 5y ago
        It is phrased as 'it is your own fault' ( Y'all have to thank ). How is that not bitter.
        vanderZwan 5y ago
        First, nothing about "y'all have to thank" suggests that they consider the person they are responding to responsible for Brexit, which is a requirement for it to imply that they are putting some sort of blame on the person (or the collective group they represent). But let's for the sake of it accept that "it's your own fault" is what was meant by it anyway. That still doesn't imply bitterness. If parents explains to their child not to run with scissors because they might hurt themselves, the child does so anyway and ends up hurting themselves, and one of the parents says in-between consoling their child "but do you see how you only have yourself to blame for it, if you decided to do this anyway after we warned you this would happen?", then that might not be the most considerate timing for sharing a harsh truth, but there's nothing bitter about the statement.
- giantandroids 5y ago
  That sounds incredibly naive. Why remove large groups of skilled engineers in your businesses domain and have to retrain again, because of a political change. I can understand a company with a manufacturing base doing this (due to import / export regulations changing), but this makes no sense in software.
lordnacho 5y ago
I'm in the UK too. But also remote means you can get a job "based" anywhere. Check out some US firms for instance, many are hiring and are happy with euro time zones.
- DoingIsLearning 5y ago
  Is that your experience with US companies hiring at the moment? I never considered this type of roles before because it was sort of a given in my head that they would want US based candidates for taxation reasons. Have you seen a big change regarding this, from US based companies?
  - ixs 5y ago
    The US companies are hiring, just like everybody else. Multi-nationals now seem to post most jobs as “remote” which means global. A smaller number is “US-remote”. Usually this is not for tax reasons but for business or security reasons if dealing with the US government. Hiring remotely is easy for these companies as they usually have a subsidiary already in country. But even if not, there are now agencies that take care if things like taxation etc. I believe remote.com might be the one most known but it is certainly not the only one.
  - lordnacho 5y ago
    Yeah they'll just pay your private company, and you sort out your own taxes. I found there's loads and loads of US firms that are happy to take Europe based candidates.
  - giantandroids 5y ago
    Very much reflects my experience. I am with a US tech now and they are very conducive to hiring Brits. They know on the whole we hold a lot of quality engineers, there are no language barriers , very little cultural differences at all.
Alonski 5y ago
Look for US based companies that hire globally. I work at CrowdStrike. Fully remote. Amazing compensation, team, work. We're hiring too :)

draw_down 5y ago

Hilarious

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wayoutthere 5y ago

Y’all have Brexit to thank for that. All my clients relocated any technical work they had in the UK to Poland or the baltics.

DoingIsLearning 5y ago
It's a bit of coup out to jump on the British where somehow everything negative that happens is due to Brexit. As counter anecdata, I am in the Netherlands and I am (now, as much as before) receiving calls for job opportunities from UK based recruiters. They are for the majority concentrated around London, Oxbridge, Bristol, Manchester. Depending on where GP is based in the UK, the landscape and opportunities can be quite different. Irrespective of the politics and bitter emotions, London's VC funding scene is arguably the closest we have in Europe to SV/Seattle/NY and it will continue to play a role in making the UK relevant in the tech scene.
- vanderZwan 5y ago
  The person you replied to wrote that all their clients "relocated any technical work they had in the UK to Poland or the Baltics". That's not politics and bitter emotions, that's sharing their own anecdotal data. Of course, one could criticize generalizing based on that one data point, but that's a different thing altogether.
  - the-dude 5y ago
    The comment you are commenting on literally(yes really) starts with blaming Brexit. How you can deny that is politics and bitter emotions is literally beyond me.
    - vanderZwan 5y ago
      Saying that Brexit is the cause of something based on one's experience with clients, expressed in a way that suggests that it did not positively or negatively affect themselves in any way, does not strike me as particularly bitter, but suit yourself.
      - the-dude 5y ago
        It is phrased as 'it is your own fault' ( Y'all have to thank ). How is that not bitter.
        vanderZwan 5y ago
        First, nothing about "y'all have to thank" suggests that they consider the person they are responding to responsible for Brexit, which is a requirement for it to imply that they are putting some sort of blame on the person (or the collective group they represent). But let's for the sake of it accept that "it's your own fault" is what was meant by it anyway. That still doesn't imply bitterness. If parents explains to their child not to run with scissors because they might hurt themselves, the child does so anyway and ends up hurting themselves, and one of the parents says in-between consoling their child "but do you see how you only have yourself to blame for it, if you decided to do this anyway after we warned you this would happen?", then that might not be the most considerate timing for sharing a harsh truth, but there's nothing bitter about the statement.
giantandroids 5y ago
That sounds incredibly naive. Why remove large groups of skilled engineers in your businesses domain and have to retrain again, because of a political change. I can understand a company with a manufacturing base doing this (due to import / export regulations changing), but this makes no sense in software.

lordnacho 5y ago

I'm in the UK too. But also remote means you can get a job "based" anywhere. Check out some US firms for instance, many are hiring and are happy with euro time zones.

DoingIsLearning 5y ago
Is that your experience with US companies hiring at the moment? I never considered this type of roles before because it was sort of a given in my head that they would want US based candidates for taxation reasons. Have you seen a big change regarding this, from US based companies?
- ixs 5y ago
  The US companies are hiring, just like everybody else. Multi-nationals now seem to post most jobs as “remote” which means global. A smaller number is “US-remote”. Usually this is not for tax reasons but for business or security reasons if dealing with the US government. Hiring remotely is easy for these companies as they usually have a subsidiary already in country. But even if not, there are now agencies that take care if things like taxation etc. I believe remote.com might be the one most known but it is certainly not the only one.
- lordnacho 5y ago
  Yeah they'll just pay your private company, and you sort out your own taxes. I found there's loads and loads of US firms that are happy to take Europe based candidates.
- giantandroids 5y ago
  Very much reflects my experience. I am with a US tech now and they are very conducive to hiring Brits. They know on the whole we hold a lot of quality engineers, there are no language barriers , very little cultural differences at all.

Alonski 5y ago

Look for US based companies that hire globally. I work at CrowdStrike. Fully remote. Amazing compensation, team, work. We're hiring too :)