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The first guy in the article is a dev. There's never been a better time to find work as a dev. Jobs are handing out more money with more flexibility than ever s

The first guy in the article is a dev. There's never been a better time to find work as a dev. Jobs are handing out more money with more flexibility than ever seen before. On top of it all, if your firm wants people back in the office soon, now is the time to do loads of remote interviews so that you can keep being remote. I was interviewing recently and almost everyone is at least partly remote, with a huge number of 100% remote. Even people that I know don't like the idea are bending and giving two or three days remote. On the restaurant-type work, I'd say a bunch of people have been given a breather from the treadmill, and they're using it to look around. I see this as mostly positive, but it does suggest that a lot of people are completely swamped, working all the time, spending everything. The little bit of credit they got from the pandemic payment has unlocked a great reckoning with the labor market. Previously if you didn't like your job, you were screwed. Somehow find time to interview/upskill, or somehow jump the gap with your savings.

beforeolives 5y ago
> Jobs are handing out more money with more flexibility than ever seen before. I'm in the UK and not seeing any of this.
- draw_down 5y ago
  Hilarious
- deleted 5y ago
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- wayoutthere 5y ago
  Y’all have Brexit to thank for that. All my clients relocated any technical work they had in the UK to Poland or the baltics.
  - DoingIsLearning 5y ago
    It's a bit of coup out to jump on the British where somehow everything negative that happens is due to Brexit. As counter anecdata, I am in the Netherlands and I am (now, as much as before) receiving calls for job opportunities from UK based recruiters. They are for the majority concentrated around London, Oxbridge, Bristol, Manchester. Depending on where GP is based in the UK, the landscape and opportunities can be quite different. Irrespective of the politics and bitter emotions, London's VC funding scene is arguably the closest we have in Europe to SV/Seattle/NY and it will continue to play a role in making the UK relevant in the tech scene.
    - vanderZwan 5y ago
      The person you replied to wrote that all their clients "relocated any technical work they had in the UK to Poland or the Baltics". That's not politics and bitter emotions, that's sharing their own anecdotal data. Of course, one could criticize generalizing based on that one data point, but that's a different thing altogether.
      - the-dude 5y ago
        The comment you are commenting on literally(yes really) starts with blaming Brexit. How you can deny that is politics and bitter emotions is literally beyond me.
        vanderZwan 5y ago
        Saying that Brexit is the cause of something based on one's experience with clients, expressed in a way that suggests that it did not positively or negatively affect themselves in any way, does not strike me as particularly bitter, but suit yourself.
        the-dude 5y ago
        It is phrased as 'it is your own fault' ( Y'all have to thank ). How is that not bitter.
  - giantandroids 5y ago
    That sounds incredibly naive. Why remove large groups of skilled engineers in your businesses domain and have to retrain again, because of a political change. I can understand a company with a manufacturing base doing this (due to import / export regulations changing), but this makes no sense in software.
- lordnacho 5y ago
  I'm in the UK too. But also remote means you can get a job "based" anywhere. Check out some US firms for instance, many are hiring and are happy with euro time zones.
  - DoingIsLearning 5y ago
    Is that your experience with US companies hiring at the moment? I never considered this type of roles before because it was sort of a given in my head that they would want US based candidates for taxation reasons. Have you seen a big change regarding this, from US based companies?
    - ixs 5y ago
      The US companies are hiring, just like everybody else. Multi-nationals now seem to post most jobs as “remote” which means global. A smaller number is “US-remote”. Usually this is not for tax reasons but for business or security reasons if dealing with the US government. Hiring remotely is easy for these companies as they usually have a subsidiary already in country. But even if not, there are now agencies that take care if things like taxation etc. I believe remote.com might be the one most known but it is certainly not the only one.
    - lordnacho 5y ago
      Yeah they'll just pay your private company, and you sort out your own taxes. I found there's loads and loads of US firms that are happy to take Europe based candidates.
    - giantandroids 5y ago
      Very much reflects my experience. I am with a US tech now and they are very conducive to hiring Brits. They know on the whole we hold a lot of quality engineers, there are no language barriers , very little cultural differences at all.
- Alonski 5y ago
  Look for US based companies that hire globally. I work at CrowdStrike. Fully remote. Amazing compensation, team, work. We're hiring too :)
wreath 5y ago
> Jobs are handing out more money with more flexibility than ever seen before. I may be naive, but I guess this office-work-exodus would result to improvements in office spaces in general to attract devs (or other employees in tech). This would also make it easier for people who are looking to move to the US to find office jobs, since the competition is less fierce. Am I off mark here and too naive?
- granshaw 5y ago
  What’d be really interesting is if some companies start paying a premium for employees to be onsite. That might be something I’d bite on
  - wreath 5y ago
    I have no issue with that tbh as long as conditions are bearable (team room, flexible timing etc). I do prefer a good office+colleagues over a good home office tbh.
  - aroundtown 5y ago
    That premium for me is going to be higher than they imagine. Among my coworkers I have an average commute time, and I loose 10-12 hours a week driving to and from work. I figure if I was being paid at my normal rate they'd need to pay me between 25-45%[1] more money just to come in. [1]- Used to be that workers weren't exempt from overtime pay. At time and a half, 12 extra hours over 40 would be the equivalent of 18 hours. That is 45% of a normal 40 hour work week. (10 hours at non-overtime pay is 25% of the work week)
- notsureaboutpg 5y ago
  First part wrong. Doesn't make any sense to try to improve an office to attract devs when so many devs are leaving the office. Office space improvements would be expensive right now due to various factors: labor shortage, materials inflation, etc. Plus the cheaper move is to snap up fancier existing office spaces since offices are in lower demand now, thus the price of existing ones will have decreased. Second part you have a point. This is the best time to move to the US on an H1B. If you're an int'l student, this is the time to look for that office job that will hold you till a green card.
onion2k 5y ago
There's never been a better time to find work as a dev. There's a lot of jobs, but there's also a lot of work to do for every application. Applying takes effort.

beforeolives 5y ago

> Jobs are handing out more money with more flexibility than ever seen before. I'm in the UK and not seeing any of this.

draw_down 5y ago
Hilarious
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wayoutthere 5y ago
Y’all have Brexit to thank for that. All my clients relocated any technical work they had in the UK to Poland or the baltics.
- DoingIsLearning 5y ago
  It's a bit of coup out to jump on the British where somehow everything negative that happens is due to Brexit. As counter anecdata, I am in the Netherlands and I am (now, as much as before) receiving calls for job opportunities from UK based recruiters. They are for the majority concentrated around London, Oxbridge, Bristol, Manchester. Depending on where GP is based in the UK, the landscape and opportunities can be quite different. Irrespective of the politics and bitter emotions, London's VC funding scene is arguably the closest we have in Europe to SV/Seattle/NY and it will continue to play a role in making the UK relevant in the tech scene.
  - vanderZwan 5y ago
    The person you replied to wrote that all their clients "relocated any technical work they had in the UK to Poland or the Baltics". That's not politics and bitter emotions, that's sharing their own anecdotal data. Of course, one could criticize generalizing based on that one data point, but that's a different thing altogether.
    - the-dude 5y ago
      The comment you are commenting on literally(yes really) starts with blaming Brexit. How you can deny that is politics and bitter emotions is literally beyond me.
      - vanderZwan 5y ago
        Saying that Brexit is the cause of something based on one's experience with clients, expressed in a way that suggests that it did not positively or negatively affect themselves in any way, does not strike me as particularly bitter, but suit yourself.
        the-dude 5y ago
        It is phrased as 'it is your own fault' ( Y'all have to thank ). How is that not bitter.
- giantandroids 5y ago
  That sounds incredibly naive. Why remove large groups of skilled engineers in your businesses domain and have to retrain again, because of a political change. I can understand a company with a manufacturing base doing this (due to import / export regulations changing), but this makes no sense in software.
lordnacho 5y ago
I'm in the UK too. But also remote means you can get a job "based" anywhere. Check out some US firms for instance, many are hiring and are happy with euro time zones.
- DoingIsLearning 5y ago
  Is that your experience with US companies hiring at the moment? I never considered this type of roles before because it was sort of a given in my head that they would want US based candidates for taxation reasons. Have you seen a big change regarding this, from US based companies?
  - ixs 5y ago
    The US companies are hiring, just like everybody else. Multi-nationals now seem to post most jobs as “remote” which means global. A smaller number is “US-remote”. Usually this is not for tax reasons but for business or security reasons if dealing with the US government. Hiring remotely is easy for these companies as they usually have a subsidiary already in country. But even if not, there are now agencies that take care if things like taxation etc. I believe remote.com might be the one most known but it is certainly not the only one.
  - lordnacho 5y ago
    Yeah they'll just pay your private company, and you sort out your own taxes. I found there's loads and loads of US firms that are happy to take Europe based candidates.
  - giantandroids 5y ago
    Very much reflects my experience. I am with a US tech now and they are very conducive to hiring Brits. They know on the whole we hold a lot of quality engineers, there are no language barriers , very little cultural differences at all.
Alonski 5y ago
Look for US based companies that hire globally. I work at CrowdStrike. Fully remote. Amazing compensation, team, work. We're hiring too :)

wreath 5y ago

> Jobs are handing out more money with more flexibility than ever seen before. I may be naive, but I guess this office-work-exodus would result to improvements in office spaces in general to attract devs (or other employees in tech). This would also make it easier for people who are looking to move to the US to find office jobs, since the competition is less fierce. Am I off mark here and too naive?

granshaw 5y ago
What’d be really interesting is if some companies start paying a premium for employees to be onsite. That might be something I’d bite on
- wreath 5y ago
  I have no issue with that tbh as long as conditions are bearable (team room, flexible timing etc). I do prefer a good office+colleagues over a good home office tbh.
- aroundtown 5y ago
  That premium for me is going to be higher than they imagine. Among my coworkers I have an average commute time, and I loose 10-12 hours a week driving to and from work. I figure if I was being paid at my normal rate they'd need to pay me between 25-45%[1] more money just to come in. [1]- Used to be that workers weren't exempt from overtime pay. At time and a half, 12 extra hours over 40 would be the equivalent of 18 hours. That is 45% of a normal 40 hour work week. (10 hours at non-overtime pay is 25% of the work week)
notsureaboutpg 5y ago
First part wrong. Doesn't make any sense to try to improve an office to attract devs when so many devs are leaving the office. Office space improvements would be expensive right now due to various factors: labor shortage, materials inflation, etc. Plus the cheaper move is to snap up fancier existing office spaces since offices are in lower demand now, thus the price of existing ones will have decreased. Second part you have a point. This is the best time to move to the US on an H1B. If you're an int'l student, this is the time to look for that office job that will hold you till a green card.

onion2k 5y ago

There's never been a better time to find work as a dev. There's a lot of jobs, but there's also a lot of work to do for every application. Applying takes effort.