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This is thuggish behavior condoned by the city government of Marseilles. The occupied McDonald's is not responsible for the economic problems there. Some HN rea
by Bostonian 5y ago
This is thuggish behavior condoned by the city government of Marseilles. The occupied McDonald's is not responsible for the economic problems there. Some HN readers seem to approve of this criminality, but a businessperson reading about this would be disinclined to start a new business in Marseilles. Without employers there will be more poverty and hunger.
- soneca 5y agoThe building was occupied after the business was closed. The equipment seems to be unused by the occupiers and well preserved. If McDonalds plan for the building was abandonment or demolition the illegal occupation seems to have zero negative impact to their business. If the plan was to sell the building, most likely it had a positive impact to their business. I see no angle where this action could have a moral hazard effect that could prevent future business from investing in that neighborhood
- tasubotadas 5y agoWhat about respecting private property and law?
- swiley 5y agoThe justification for private property is that the market would force it to be used somewhat optimally. Modern financial instruments and zoning regulation have distorted this to the degree that real estate can be extremely irrational for decades and often people just go without many services (such as housing) due to this. I'm generally pro private property but at least from the perspective of someone living in the US I sometimes question the idea when it comes to real estate in developed areas.
- mustafa_pasi 5y agoThey are just moving fast and breaking things. You don't become rich by respecting the law, either.
- soneca 5y agoThat has to be dealt with. If the city buys the building and reach a fair agreement with McDonalds, I still don’t see risk of moral hazard.
- technothrasher 5y ago> a businessperson reading about this would be disinclined to start a new business in Marseilles. The business people involved had already shut down the McDonald's after the French government stopped subsidizing it. Is the former employees then running a food bank out of the abandoned restaurant an attack on business?
- Jiejeing 5y agoActually the chain wanted to close shop due to the high number of union members (which McDonald’s never wants), and planned to sell the restaurant to some other asian fast-food chain, getting rid of the employees at the same time. Not sure that is the kind of businesspeople you want attract, to be honest.
- netizen-936824 5y agoI didn't know there was a different type of business person.
- tasubotadas 5y agoWow. If this comment is downvoted then... In what kind of loony world are we living?
- zeusk 5y agoikr, wonder if the responses would differ if any tech employee brings homeless people to cafeteria for that free food.
- Jiejeing 5y agoOne in which false information and judgemental opinions about thing you know nothing about are not rewarded. Seems fine to me. It is funny that the parent talks about thugs, because the owner actually paid thugs to physically attack and give death threats to the workers at this restaurant who would not obey him.
- nindalf 5y agoA world where people read the article before commenting.
- lm28469 5y agoA world in which people help each other, I know, shocking right ? Solidarity, helping the weakest, providing basic human needs to people, if anything we need more of that. There isn't anything thuggish about it btw, the business was closed and the mayor chipped in to help the people running the current food bank. And personally I prefer to see a bit more human decency and a bit less disgusting American shit food resellers like macdonald's. I know Americans don't know a lot about solidarity and are probably the most individualistic country in the west but come one, "thuggish", lmao
- akudha 5y agothuggish behavior Ah yes, how dare they help starving people voluntarily, right? /s
- flavius29663 5y agoAnd if I come into your kitchen, setup camp and start serving others from there, you would cheer me along?
- netizen-936824 5y agoDid he close and abandon his kitchen?
- Brian_K_White 5y agoIf you come in to my kitchen that I already abandoned, I wouldn't even know let alone care. I have a dead car out back, and a other car I value. They are both my property. If you come and try to take the one I actually value even the slightest bit, I will come out and object. If you come and take away my trash, I will not object. Where are the cops sent by McDonalds to object to this tresspass and theft of their valued property? Lastly, private property, especially land, is routinely reclaimed by the public from private owners, any time the goverenment decides it needs to. No one ever really owns land. It is all ultimately owned by the state.
- zeusk 5y ago> Lastly, private property, especially land, is routinely reclaimed by the public from private owners, any time the goverenment decides it needs to. No one ever really owns land. It is all ultimately owned by the state. Unless you're from China - The people/govt compensate landowners when the land is needed for a public project.
- carrja99 5y agoSomeone read the headline and not the article. :-)
- robertaflack 5y agoBraindead Bostonian coming in strong for law, order, and the status quo of capitalism. Of course any right-minded person should approve of workers taking things into their own hands, organizing for themselves, when the system abandons them and leaves them hungry.