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That’s why we ought to give people a sense of the odds. The chance that you’ll be a $400k income earner is somewhere around 1 in 100, so not too likely. You c

That’s why we ought to give people a sense of the odds. The chance that you’ll be a $400k income earner is somewhere around 1 in 100, so not too likely. You can increase your odds by getting certain kinds of degrees and by living in certain areas, but odds are still going to be against you. I’m not sure how much since I don’t have the conditional probabilities at hand. Try to get your hands on the stats to set your expectations accordingly. Good luck out there!

username90 5y ago
The chance gets greatly increased if you are smart though. A smart person with a stem degree is would easily get a $400k salary by joining Google (they mostly test for intelligence so not hard to join for a smart person) and staying for 10 years. "Being born smart is luck" Depends on how you view it, we normally say luck are things that doesn't affect merit. "You were lucky to be born being able to do stuff others can't", well sure but that is how society should work, a person who provides more value should naturally get more of the rewards. Otherwise you'd have to say things like "Einstein discovered all the things he did almost solely thanks to luck!".
- state_less 5y ago
  Getting a STEM degree is a low probability event, say 1 in 10, then getting in google is another low probability event, say 1 in 10. So making it sound easy/likely seems misleading. I was acknowledging that there are things you can do to improve your odds. Einstein didn’t make it into the Google of his day. He worked as a patent clerk for some time while working on groundbreaking physics until he was accepted. It’s okay to be an average income earner, most are. Don’t get too hung up on something that isn’t likely for you. Also don’t forget what is valued can change. A farmer might be very lucky and valued, by a chance turn of events. If your doing well, be kind and try to raise the floor up for lesser income earners. Maybe they’ll remember you well if you have a turn of bad luck.
- lumost 5y ago
  Google tests for traditional Computer Science skills taught in a typical set of Algorithms classes at a 4 year degree program. A 400k/yr job at Google hired externally would typically be an individual with 10+ years of experience solving hard problems in production with exposure across organizational, engineering, management, and research domains. It's a fairly recent phenomena that Google began hiring from most universities at the college level, in 2010 they didn't even perform campus recruiting at all of the top-40 universities let alone dedicate valuable phone screen and interview time to candidates outside of top university programs with high GPAs. Hell this is the company founded by Stanford PHDs that famously required industry hires to furnish proof that they held a GPA higher than 3.5!
lumost 5y ago
The odds aren't quite 1 in 100 for the typical individual weighing their options at High School age. Typically one would need to get a degree from a good school which requires both money (Harvard costs $198k for 4 years now), and a school good enough to create Harvard admissions (1 in 6 students attend a dropout factory), and a stable enough home life that one isn't compelled to simply work to support the family/themselves at graduation.

username90 5y ago

The chance gets greatly increased if you are smart though. A smart person with a stem degree is would easily get a $400k salary by joining Google (they mostly test for intelligence so not hard to join for a smart person) and staying for 10 years. "Being born smart is luck" Depends on how you view it, we normally say luck are things that doesn't affect merit. "You were lucky to be born being able to do stuff others can't", well sure but that is how society should work, a person who provides more value should naturally get more of the rewards. Otherwise you'd have to say things like "Einstein discovered all the things he did almost solely thanks to luck!".

state_less 5y ago
Getting a STEM degree is a low probability event, say 1 in 10, then getting in google is another low probability event, say 1 in 10. So making it sound easy/likely seems misleading. I was acknowledging that there are things you can do to improve your odds. Einstein didn’t make it into the Google of his day. He worked as a patent clerk for some time while working on groundbreaking physics until he was accepted. It’s okay to be an average income earner, most are. Don’t get too hung up on something that isn’t likely for you. Also don’t forget what is valued can change. A farmer might be very lucky and valued, by a chance turn of events. If your doing well, be kind and try to raise the floor up for lesser income earners. Maybe they’ll remember you well if you have a turn of bad luck.
lumost 5y ago
Google tests for traditional Computer Science skills taught in a typical set of Algorithms classes at a 4 year degree program. A 400k/yr job at Google hired externally would typically be an individual with 10+ years of experience solving hard problems in production with exposure across organizational, engineering, management, and research domains. It's a fairly recent phenomena that Google began hiring from most universities at the college level, in 2010 they didn't even perform campus recruiting at all of the top-40 universities let alone dedicate valuable phone screen and interview time to candidates outside of top university programs with high GPAs. Hell this is the company founded by Stanford PHDs that famously required industry hires to furnish proof that they held a GPA higher than 3.5!

lumost 5y ago

The odds aren't quite 1 in 100 for the typical individual weighing their options at High School age. Typically one would need to get a degree from a good school which requires both money (Harvard costs $198k for 4 years now), and a school good enough to create Harvard admissions (1 in 6 students attend a dropout factory), and a stable enough home life that one isn't compelled to simply work to support the family/themselves at graduation.