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> 3) Low/no code drag-and-drop style programming tools would take away many dev jobs I started programming as a kid in the early 90s, and went to college in th

> 3) Low/no code drag-and-drop style programming tools would take away many dev jobs I started programming as a kid in the early 90s, and went to college in the late 90s/early 00s. It might sound crazy in hindsight, but between these tools and outsourcing, everyone I talked to thought being a programmer was going to be a dead end minimum wage type job, and I was strongly advised by many to pick a different major.

valbaca 5y ago
During my college internship (2010) I was told that my CS degree would be totally worthless and I should focus on electrical engineering (though that would've been fine too tbh)...oh, and that I should put all the money I could into gold and guns...the dude was a nut is what I'm saying.
- lostcolony 5y ago
  I mean, to be fair, gold has sextupled in price in the past twenty years, and Smith and Wesson is worth roughly 20x as much, depending on the point in 2000. So, yes, a nut, but not horrible investment advice, per se
alexgmcm 5y ago
In fairness, lots of tech jobs have died out like there are nowhere near as many system administrators, database admins as there were since the cloud has become bigger. Equally, tools like Wordpress has killed off/deskilled the old 'webmaster' role - I mean sure, there are still people making money doing Wordpress sites for businesses but it's nowhere near as lucrative as it was at the start of the dot-com boom era.
- jimbokun 5y ago
  > In fairness, lots of tech jobs have died out like there are nowhere near as many system administrators, database admins as there were since the cloud has become bigger. Yes, now they are all Cloud admins.
orzig 5y ago
A friend's mother, the only professional programmer I knew, told us that all the US programming jobs would be done remotely from China/India. He: Civil engineer, ending up working in China (stealing their jobs!) Me: MechE, but fell into data science, and now work with a local team that's plurality 1st gen Indian, and majority 1st gen non-US. How would I grade her prediction? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
JohnWhigham 5y ago
dead end minimum wage type job Don't worry, the big tech companies are spending ungodly amounts to make this happen.
- jimbokun 5y ago
  Will probably be about as successful as last time.
  - JohnWhigham 5y ago
    What "last time"? They've been pretty successful so far. There's more programmer jobs today than ever.
Svperstar 5y ago
I started my CS degree in 2000, I heard the same, companies would rather fly someone from India over then hire you. Also my CS advisor said "Java will be the only language anyone uses in 20 years"
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valbaca 5y ago

During my college internship (2010) I was told that my CS degree would be totally worthless and I should focus on electrical engineering (though that would've been fine too tbh)...oh, and that I should put all the money I could into gold and guns...the dude was a nut is what I'm saying.

lostcolony 5y ago
I mean, to be fair, gold has sextupled in price in the past twenty years, and Smith and Wesson is worth roughly 20x as much, depending on the point in 2000. So, yes, a nut, but not horrible investment advice, per se

alexgmcm 5y ago

In fairness, lots of tech jobs have died out like there are nowhere near as many system administrators, database admins as there were since the cloud has become bigger. Equally, tools like Wordpress has killed off/deskilled the old 'webmaster' role - I mean sure, there are still people making money doing Wordpress sites for businesses but it's nowhere near as lucrative as it was at the start of the dot-com boom era.

jimbokun 5y ago
> In fairness, lots of tech jobs have died out like there are nowhere near as many system administrators, database admins as there were since the cloud has become bigger. Yes, now they are all Cloud admins.

orzig 5y ago

A friend's mother, the only professional programmer I knew, told us that all the US programming jobs would be done remotely from China/India. He: Civil engineer, ending up working in China (stealing their jobs!) Me: MechE, but fell into data science, and now work with a local team that's plurality 1st gen Indian, and majority 1st gen non-US. How would I grade her prediction? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

JohnWhigham 5y ago

dead end minimum wage type job Don't worry, the big tech companies are spending ungodly amounts to make this happen.

jimbokun 5y ago
Will probably be about as successful as last time.
- JohnWhigham 5y ago
  What "last time"? They've been pretty successful so far. There's more programmer jobs today than ever.

Svperstar 5y ago

I started my CS degree in 2000, I heard the same, companies would rather fly someone from India over then hire you. Also my CS advisor said "Java will be the only language anyone uses in 20 years"

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