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Can you explain why you expect modern software to run on old hardware first? Should I be surprised that my turn of the millennium PC can't even run Slack? Yes,

Can you explain why you expect modern software to run on old hardware first? Should I be surprised that my turn of the millennium PC can't even run Slack? Yes, in absolute terms it's a bit ridiculous, but we're not talking philosophy here, Moore's law is a thing and software has been getting more complex as hardware got faster. Deal with it. How is this news?

bionade24 5y ago
There are Slack clients out there, which use a hundreth of the official one and they can run on these old machines, too. The problem aren't more ressource itensive features not possible before, but delivering a services we have for decades with way worse ressource usage because you can.
- djrogers 5y ago
  > There are Slack clients out there, which use a hundreth of the official one and they can run on these old machines, too Uhh, care to share? Asking for a friend....
  - Marsymars 5y ago
    Maybe referring to Ripcord. I haven't used for Slack though, I don't know what Slack's position is on third-party clients - using them with Discord is liable to get you banned.
  - bionade24 5y ago
    Ripcord is the most advanced, SailSlack for SailfishOS and lots of CLI clients.
zbrozek 5y ago
In a lot of cases new software isn't delivering utility over old software, yet consumes more resources. Users justifiably feel miffed that they're expected to buy new hardware merely to keep up.
II2II 5y ago
> Can you explain why you expect modern software to run on old hardware first? People are expected to run modern software for reasons of security, to retain interoperability with the latest standards, or to reduce support costs for the vendor. It is not very surprising that people don't want to upgrade their hardware for reasons that are outside of their control.
jokoon 5y ago
"Deal with it" ? How is that an argument? Things are getting worse and it should not be a problem then? If software is getting more complex, what kind of feature is it bringing or adding? I mean it's not more complex without a good reason. If you quote Moore's law, let me quote Wirth's law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirth%27s_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirth%27s_law

bionade24 5y ago

There are Slack clients out there, which use a hundreth of the official one and they can run on these old machines, too. The problem aren't more ressource itensive features not possible before, but delivering a services we have for decades with way worse ressource usage because you can.

djrogers 5y ago
> There are Slack clients out there, which use a hundreth of the official one and they can run on these old machines, too Uhh, care to share? Asking for a friend....
- Marsymars 5y ago
  Maybe referring to Ripcord. I haven't used for Slack though, I don't know what Slack's position is on third-party clients - using them with Discord is liable to get you banned.
- bionade24 5y ago
  Ripcord is the most advanced, SailSlack for SailfishOS and lots of CLI clients.

zbrozek 5y ago

In a lot of cases new software isn't delivering utility over old software, yet consumes more resources. Users justifiably feel miffed that they're expected to buy new hardware merely to keep up.

II2II 5y ago

> Can you explain why you expect modern software to run on old hardware first? People are expected to run modern software for reasons of security, to retain interoperability with the latest standards, or to reduce support costs for the vendor. It is not very surprising that people don't want to upgrade their hardware for reasons that are outside of their control.

jokoon 5y ago

"Deal with it" ? How is that an argument? Things are getting worse and it should not be a problem then? If software is getting more complex, what kind of feature is it bringing or adding? I mean it's not more complex without a good reason. If you quote Moore's law, let me quote Wirth's law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirth%27s_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirth%27s_law