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> Engineers are a defeated tribe; it’s cheaper to hire an “AI” (Alien or Immigrant) slave to write the terraform or electron front end rather than paying clever

> Engineers are a defeated tribe; it’s cheaper to hire an “AI” (Alien or Immigrant) slave to write the terraform or electron front end rather than paying clever engineers well enough to build themselves useful tooling to make them more productive and the world a better place. Offensive passage that subtly implies immigrants from the developing world are slavish (and dehumanising them as well, using the word alien), incapable of intelligence, and who're undercutting honest-to-god 'engineers', and preventing the world from becoming a better place. I'm astonished that hordes of people are still ready to sell their first born if they can get a citizenship amid such a culture of passive racism and superiority complex.

Aeolun 5y ago
> I'm astonished that hordes of people are still ready to sell their first born if they can get a citizenship amid such a culture of passive racism and superiority complex. Can you imagine how bad it is where they come from?
- hulitu 5y ago
  No. He is just astonished. I am also astonished that a so called good manager will outsource a project to a "third world" country because he thinks this is cheaper and the poor guy in the third world country must reinvent the wheel and be "creative" because he is denied money (for equipment) and knowledge. ("just take this code and continue").
clarge1120 5y ago
There is no racism here, subtle or otherwise, and I say this as a black engineer watching this happen every single day. Engineers are not allowed to talk about how their jobs are being replaced by web development in every possible corner even where it doesn’t fit. It is much cheaper to hire 5 offshore web devs for 5 weeks to force a solution into a web interface and then have an onshore dev spend 2 weeks turning web UI into an Electron app than it is to build any other type of solution. He is simply stating the issue rather than not stating it.

Aeolun 5y ago

> I'm astonished that hordes of people are still ready to sell their first born if they can get a citizenship amid such a culture of passive racism and superiority complex. Can you imagine how bad it is where they come from?

hulitu 5y ago
No. He is just astonished. I am also astonished that a so called good manager will outsource a project to a "third world" country because he thinks this is cheaper and the poor guy in the third world country must reinvent the wheel and be "creative" because he is denied money (for equipment) and knowledge. ("just take this code and continue").

clarge1120 5y ago

There is no racism here, subtle or otherwise, and I say this as a black engineer watching this happen every single day. Engineers are not allowed to talk about how their jobs are being replaced by web development in every possible corner even where it doesn’t fit. It is much cheaper to hire 5 offshore web devs for 5 weeks to force a solution into a web interface and then have an onshore dev spend 2 weeks turning web UI into an Electron app than it is to build any other type of solution. He is simply stating the issue rather than not stating it.