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I have this weird feeling that I'm making the same mistake right now.

by napsterbr 5y ago

rkk3 5y ago
If you feel that way, you probably are.
victor9000 5y ago
If you've been there longer than 3 years, then yes, you're making the mistake.
- rsynnott 5y ago
  This is a strange attitude; if you change jobs every three years, then how much are you going to get done, really? If everyone took this approach, then would any large project ever get finished?
  - Hydraulix989 5y ago
    Why wouldn't six months be more than enough time to ship a project?
    - derwiki 5y ago
      It can take time to build political capital to be trusted to lead/ship a project.
    - hn_go_brrrrr 5y ago
      Depends on the project. I just launched something last week I'd been working on for the previous 18 months.
    - benhurmarcel 5y ago
      Not every company works only on small software products.
  - victor9000 5y ago
    Well, OP is talking about their first job, so my advice is targeting that specific situation. As a general rule, engineers see a fairly large bump in pay when going from their first to their second job, particularly if they did a poor job of negotiating their first salary. So yes, in terms of career development and realizing your earning potential, you should not stay at your first job for more than a few years.
- smitty1e 5y ago
  At the company, or in a specific position? I'd say continuity is fine, if the firm is large enough to offer a career path.
- jtwaleson 5y ago
  In many startup product companies, the specific knowledge about the product is not interchangeable with other tech companies. The tech skills and the soft skills are, but a large part is know-how about the product and the market. It makes sense to stick around longer if you see yourself as a "knowledge worker" rather than as an interchangeable techie. It certainly makes sense from the company's perspective to keep knowledgeable people around.
rpmisms 5y ago
It's very likely. 2 years seems to be standard, and I'm moving jobs after 1.5 next week. 20% raise for very similar work, there's no reason not to move.
- p_l 5y ago
  I was recently told I was "long" with the company for moving after a bit under 2 years (I'm leaving 31st July, I joined on 15th september). I can't help but think that it's pathological to consider that "long" :/
  - rpmisms 5y ago
    I wish it wasn't. Many companies simply make it too difficult to move up and grow internally.

I have this weird feeling that I'm making the same mistake right now.

rkk3 5y ago

If you feel that way, you probably are.

victor9000 5y ago

If you've been there longer than 3 years, then yes, you're making the mistake.

rsynnott 5y ago
This is a strange attitude; if you change jobs every three years, then how much are you going to get done, really? If everyone took this approach, then would any large project ever get finished?
- Hydraulix989 5y ago
  Why wouldn't six months be more than enough time to ship a project?
  - derwiki 5y ago
    It can take time to build political capital to be trusted to lead/ship a project.
  - hn_go_brrrrr 5y ago
    Depends on the project. I just launched something last week I'd been working on for the previous 18 months.
  - benhurmarcel 5y ago
    Not every company works only on small software products.
- victor9000 5y ago
  Well, OP is talking about their first job, so my advice is targeting that specific situation. As a general rule, engineers see a fairly large bump in pay when going from their first to their second job, particularly if they did a poor job of negotiating their first salary. So yes, in terms of career development and realizing your earning potential, you should not stay at your first job for more than a few years.
smitty1e 5y ago
At the company, or in a specific position? I'd say continuity is fine, if the firm is large enough to offer a career path.
jtwaleson 5y ago
In many startup product companies, the specific knowledge about the product is not interchangeable with other tech companies. The tech skills and the soft skills are, but a large part is know-how about the product and the market. It makes sense to stick around longer if you see yourself as a "knowledge worker" rather than as an interchangeable techie. It certainly makes sense from the company's perspective to keep knowledgeable people around.

rpmisms 5y ago

It's very likely. 2 years seems to be standard, and I'm moving jobs after 1.5 next week. 20% raise for very similar work, there's no reason not to move.

p_l 5y ago
I was recently told I was "long" with the company for moving after a bit under 2 years (I'm leaving 31st July, I joined on 15th september). I can't help but think that it's pathological to consider that "long" :/
- rpmisms 5y ago
  I wish it wasn't. Many companies simply make it too difficult to move up and grow internally.