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This is the equivalent from less than scratch. Worse than from the beginning. In the beginning they didn't have a pissed off community and weeks of bad will.

AlexandrB 5y ago
Indeed. Who is the plausible user base for Freenode at this point? It's unlikely that IRC will ever be able peel users away from Discord/Slack, no matter what improvements Freenode makes. Meanwhile, anyone already using IRC is probably aware of this drama and will stay well away from Freenode.
- wernercd 5y ago
  Basically. There's a small community of IRC. That small community is now going to have a large portion that says "freenode is a nogo". What's the realistic community remaining in freenode? Who's going to donate? invest? I'm an outsider and wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.
- Grinnz 5y ago
  Some hints (root is rasengan): <root> jane_doe: hint the freenode network is its own sovereign state https://freenode.net/news/taking-irc-further#canceling-cancel-culture-or-why-anonymity-is-important https://freenode.net/news/taking-irc-further#canceling-cance...
  - imtringued 5y ago
    Has there ever been a sovereign state that deported all its citizens?
  - flyinghamster 5y ago
    Phrases like "sovereign state" and the bad-faith "freedom" rhetoric makes me think they're positioning Freenode as a new right-wing hangout.
- geofft 5y ago
  The past few years have shown that if you say "Free speech!" and "Cancel culture!" and "Blockchain!" loud enough, you'll get an audience, no need for any substance behind it - and the more dramatic your actions, the more they'll follow you, with little regard to whether those actions make any sense.
  - shp0ngle 5y ago
    Even the bitcoin people and the FSF people moved to Libera. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/IRC_channels https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/IRC_channels https://www.fsf.org/news/fsf-and-gnu-move-official-irc-channels-to-libera-chat-network https://www.fsf.org/news/fsf-and-gnu-move-official-irc-chann...
- geocar 5y ago
  My guess is q anon.
  - wernercd 5y ago
    What's sad... is I think even QAnon will go "Where We Go One, We Go All... but we aren't going anywhere near that crazy shit".

AlexandrB 5y ago

Indeed. Who is the plausible user base for Freenode at this point? It's unlikely that IRC will ever be able peel users away from Discord/Slack, no matter what improvements Freenode makes. Meanwhile, anyone already using IRC is probably aware of this drama and will stay well away from Freenode.

wernercd 5y ago
Basically. There's a small community of IRC. That small community is now going to have a large portion that says "freenode is a nogo". What's the realistic community remaining in freenode? Who's going to donate? invest? I'm an outsider and wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.
Grinnz 5y ago
Some hints (root is rasengan): <root> jane_doe: hint the freenode network is its own sovereign state https://freenode.net/news/taking-irc-further#canceling-cancel-culture-or-why-anonymity-is-important https://freenode.net/news/taking-irc-further#canceling-cance...
- imtringued 5y ago
  Has there ever been a sovereign state that deported all its citizens?
- flyinghamster 5y ago
  Phrases like "sovereign state" and the bad-faith "freedom" rhetoric makes me think they're positioning Freenode as a new right-wing hangout.
geofft 5y ago
The past few years have shown that if you say "Free speech!" and "Cancel culture!" and "Blockchain!" loud enough, you'll get an audience, no need for any substance behind it - and the more dramatic your actions, the more they'll follow you, with little regard to whether those actions make any sense.
- shp0ngle 5y ago
  Even the bitcoin people and the FSF people moved to Libera. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/IRC_channels https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/IRC_channels https://www.fsf.org/news/fsf-and-gnu-move-official-irc-channels-to-libera-chat-network https://www.fsf.org/news/fsf-and-gnu-move-official-irc-chann...
geocar 5y ago
My guess is q anon.
- wernercd 5y ago
  What's sad... is I think even QAnon will go "Where We Go One, We Go All... but we aren't going anywhere near that crazy shit".