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It is by no means failing; at least from what I see, their adoption is higher than it's ever been. They are making a lot of pointless changes while ignoring all
by jfrunyon 5y ago
It is by no means failing; at least from what I see, their adoption is higher than it's ever been. They are making a lot of pointless changes while ignoring all the real problems they have, though. Like the fact that group Chats are still unusable for organizations with... you know... users.
- bogwog 5y agoThe real question isn't is it failing?, it's does any employee at Google still happen to give a shit about it? Because if the answer is no, it's going to the graveyard no matter how many users it has. (https://killedbygoogle.com/ https://killedbygoogle.com/)
- deelowe 5y agoIt’s all that’s used at Google. The office suite isn’t going anywhere.
- anoncake 5y agoWhat does Google use for internal chat?
- romwell 5y agoHangouts/Chat. Which means, practically, that everything is done through internal mail lists, because chat is not usable. Pre-covid, that also strongly incentivized everyone to actually work on campus.
- what_ever 5y agoI don't find Chat unsuable at all. My only team related emails are bug updates which are filtered. I feel group chats on Chat is a better UX than old Hangouts. Edit: Disc: Googler.
- kadoban 5y agoI've been using Google for years. These days I literally do not know what Chat is. I'm not sure if it's what I'm using, if it's embedded in what I'm using, if it's one of the embedded things I ignore, etc. (I use Google Voice, which on android I think they tried to say was chat at some point? But none of the strings seem to say that. And then in gmail, is that Chat, the thing they keep pretending anyone cares about the 5th time they rebranded and split/combined/deprecated/invented? I think they've gone beyond making it unusable, I literally don't know how I'd find it if I wanted to, and they've long since convinced me that I shouldn't try.
- what_ever 5y agoOkay. You can ignore it then. FWIW, chat.google.com wasn't rolled out for @gmail.com accounts. It was being rolled out in Google Workspace/gSuite. And this announcement rolled it out to @gmail.com accounts. Old Hangouts is replaced by Chat for text and Meet for video. You can access it at chat.google.com. Voice is for texting with your GVoice number. It used to be possible to integrate with Hangouts but it's not integrated with Chat. Chat just works with gmail/Workspace account and not a phone number. Voice works with a phone number.
- jfrunyon 5y agoCurious how y'all find the group chats you want in the bajillions that Googlers must have by now created, given that there are exactly 0 controls on who can create groups and no ability to delete or hide them...
- what_ever 5y agoOh yeah. That can be a pain. Usually someone just invites or links me to the group chat. I rarely try to find a group chat using the search but I know that it's not the best.
- mkr-hn 5y agoSame reason Blogger is immortal.
- imNotTheProb 5y agoGoogle killing products is what lost me as a fanboy. I even enjoyed their data collection. But getting rid of Google Play and changing their photos policy was the last straw. Now I'm Gmail and some search only. Even got me an Android with a custom ROM and chrome compiled without Google..
- judge2020 5y agoWorkspace has SLAs[0] as well as 50+ features in development at any time [1]. 0: https://workspace.google.com/terms/sla.html#:~:text=rate-,google%20workspace%20covered%20services,-means https://workspace.google.com/terms/sla.html#:~:text=rate-,go... 1: https://support.google.com/a/table/7539891?hl=en https://support.google.com/a/table/7539891?hl=en (and this is just the public list).
- posguy 5y agoCool, it will limp along barely maintained for an extra 2 to 4 years.