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> Expressing intent to resign, and actually resigning are completely different things. You have to ask yourself, why this is the case. And the simple answer is
by dcolkitt 5y ago
> Expressing intent to resign, and actually resigning are completely different things.
You have to ask yourself, why this is the case. And the simple answer is status quo bias. Many dream of a different life, but few will actually pull the trigger on a major change.
However if a company suddenly changes an established working relationship, then all bets are off the table. If people have gotten used to WFH, and now you make them come into the office, then you’re invalidating the status quo bias. Switching jobs is probably less disruptive to their status quo then going back to the office.
Corporate managers are forgetting a very maxim. Never piss off your employees by taking away something they feel entitled to. It’s the same reason that it’s virtually unheard of to cut salary, even when revenue is collapsing in a deflationary recession.
- Wonnk13 5y ago>Never piss off your employees by taking away something they feel entitled to. I've read one of the easiest ways to break moral in an office is to simply take away the snacks. Forget nap pods, or walking desks- don't touch my clif bars!!
- ryandrake 5y agoSteve Blank wrote about this: https://steveblank.com/2009/12/21/the-elves-leave-middle-earth-–-soda’s-are-no-longer-free/ https://steveblank.com/2009/12/21/the-elves-leave-middle-ear...
- vidarh 5y agoI like the one who suggested the answer to the question of how much the free drinks cost should be "less than the cost of hiring a single engineer".
- sokoloff 5y agoUsed to work at an office where they got rid of free drinks. The morning it happened, Top Engineer 1 sent a mail to all Boston staff announcing he was thirsty and asked if anyone else was similarly thirsty and wanted to join him on a grocery trip to buy soda. Three cars full of engineers went to the grocery store, taking a little over an hour. Free drinks returned later that same week.
- aYsY4dDQ2NrcNzA 5y agoI love that guy.
- foobiekr 5y agoThis exact event happened at both Cisco and Juniper when they got rid of free drinks. Multiple times.
- francisofascii 5y agoRight, the whole point of free food/drinks was the keep the engineer from wanting to leave the office. It was not really a perk but a way to entice the employee to working more.
- comeonseriously 5y agoExactly. A lot of people think, if the company is so tight or so stingy (whichever the case may be) they can't afford bagels anymore, it might behoove me to search for work elsewhere.
- lanstin 5y agoTo be honest one of awesome things for work at home is it prompted to me to finally setup a half decent bagel at home routine. And nice coffee, weak and fifty percent milk, just like I like it. I am looking forward to 4 pm tea time informal chats with friends, two days a week, shortly.
- helge9210 5y ago> I've read one of the easiest ways to break moral in an office is to simply take away the snacks For me this is indication of cost cutting going into effect. This means it's time to stop riding a dead horse and to start looking for a live one.
- michaelbrave 5y agoThis, it's either the first sign of larger problems or a sign of a significant culture shift, either way it signals that change that is likely for the worse is coming so it might be time to leave before it gets worse.
- Scoundreller 5y agoYou can watch the snacks, but I check the TP quality. Easy to verify before you start as well.
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- xyzzyz 5y ago> It’s the same reason that it’s virtually unheard of to cut salary, even when revenue is collapsing in a deflationary recession Yes, that’s why companies prefer lay offs rather than broad base salary cuts. Lay offs are a temporary hit to morale, while pay cuts are more permanent. Moreover, in lay offs, you can fire least productive workers, while after pay cut, it’s the most productive that will leave first.
- Pet_Ant 5y agoI've seen more jobs offer like 10% yearly bonuses for the reason that I assume is the ability to cut back on costs in a pinch without touching the salary itself per se.
- nomel 5y ago> I assume is the ability to cut back on costs in a pinch without touching the salary itself per se. A pay increase is a > 10 year commitment, in the eyes of the accounting department. Where I am, it's usually around 60% base cash bonus, %30 base RSU bonus, for "above average" performance (which isn't difficult). I, unlike most of my colleagues, budget my life around my base pay. I experienced the 2007 recession, so in my mind, this is all unsustainable and will crash someday.
- lanstin 5y agoAfter a few demoralizing layoffs you have a tendency for talented folks to leave once the picture is clear. Does management think software is an investment or a cost? If you can work where it is an investment, do so.
- nomel 5y ago> After a few demoralizing layoffs you have a tendency for talented folks to leave once the picture is clear From what I've experienced, there's a double whammy here. Only the talented folks remain, but they all know better than to stick around, so the company dies shortly after.
- jjk166 5y ago> Switching jobs is probably less disruptive to their status quo then going back to the office. Maybe for a little while when there are lots of jobs offering WFH and competing for a small number of people switching jobs. However if you invert that by having lots of jobs simultaneously require people to come back into the office and lots of people simultaneously seeking new employment, then that job hop is likely to be quite difficult. At the very least, most people probably won't be able to line up a new WFH job before they either need to start going into the office or quit and risk extended unemployment. In the long run there will be more WFH opportunities than before the pandemic, but a lot of people are going to have to go into an office whether they want to or not.
- lanstin 5y agoNot for software in US or India I don’t think. I am not manager but do lots of interviewing and OMG people who can code and think and talk are so so precious. We would hire all remote in a jiffy, unless asking salary is higher than budget. When it is coming down to it, my company is picking lower salary over in office.
- guythedudebro 5y agoI can talk precisely and concisely. My code is slowly written but solid. Why dont my interviewers make me feel precious?
- hattori31 5y agoBecause they see you as "another one person they have to interview" while they should approach you as someone completely new. I did the same mistake as an interviewer in the past.
- cleansingfire 5y agoI personally frame any cancelled perq as an effective pay cut. Usually portrayed by management as somehow expected, & as if unearned in the first place, which I find galling. I also had an experienced coworker who pointed out that when the water cooler went away, the company was circling the drain, which my limited experience has borne out.