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> "don't harass that drug dealer unless he's causing problems By drug dealer I assume you mean person of color. If they were harassing the drug dealer for deal

by yardie 5y ago

> "don't harass that drug dealer unless he's causing problems By drug dealer I assume you mean person of color. If they were harassing the drug dealer for dealing drugs there should be plenty of evidence to back the case. If they are using a hunch to harass a civilian and that hunch is the color of their skin, or dress with no other mitigating factors then they should be bounced right out of the force. Also, by design, police are a reactionary force in the US. A crime is committed, the police react. Pre-crime doesn't exist except in sci-fi.

Octoth0rpe 5y ago
> Also, by design, police are a reactionary force in the US. A crime is committed, the police react. Generally true, but somewhat less true when one considers policies like stop/frisk.
- yardie 5y ago
  Stop and frisk without pretext of a crime was found to be unconstitutional since the 60s but NYPD was going to do it anyway until it was reaffirmed in 2014.
bko 5y ago
Not necessarily. A lot of people get processed through the system a lot so they're well known by most officers.
hn8788 5y ago
Everything about your comment is wrong. Police aren't required to arrest everyone that is committing a crime, so they can choose to let low-level drug dealers do what they want. Police also go out on patrol, that's what pro-active policing is, no sci-fi necessary. You can look at cities like Baltimore where the crime rate jumped after the Freddy Grey protests due to the police cutting back on the amount of pro-active policing they're doing.
- yardie 5y ago
  Pro-active policing is why people like Freddy Grey are dead. They arrested him without pretext, charged him with carrying a butterfly knife (which is illegal, but after the fact), and then left him unsecured in a police van until he broke his neck.
cnfsd2 5y ago
> "By drug dealer I assume you mean person of color" Why would a drug dealer be a "person of color" ? I did not see that in the original comment and I don't understand why you would make that assumption. My experience (based on news reports - I've never purchased drugs illegally) about drug dealers is that they are a cross section of society, meaning people of every skin color and ethnicity. The color of their skin is not the deciding factor based on the reports I've seen. Why is the color of someone's skin so important to you? [edit: grammar]
- yardie 5y ago
  > NYPD increased stop and frisk from 100,000 stops to nearly 700,000 stops per year. 90% of those impacted were people of color — overwhelmingly black and brown men, [0] Because NYPD literally had a policy that targeted black and brown people. And when they wanted to less biased harrassment the mayor pushed back and instructed them to stop and frisk brown and black men, specifically. [0] https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/bloomberg-apologizes-stop-frisk-police-practice-67087051 https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/bloomberg-apologiz...

by yardie 5y ago

Octoth0rpe 5y ago

> Also, by design, police are a reactionary force in the US. A crime is committed, the police react. Generally true, but somewhat less true when one considers policies like stop/frisk.

yardie 5y ago
Stop and frisk without pretext of a crime was found to be unconstitutional since the 60s but NYPD was going to do it anyway until it was reaffirmed in 2014.

bko 5y ago

Not necessarily. A lot of people get processed through the system a lot so they're well known by most officers.

hn8788 5y ago

Everything about your comment is wrong. Police aren't required to arrest everyone that is committing a crime, so they can choose to let low-level drug dealers do what they want. Police also go out on patrol, that's what pro-active policing is, no sci-fi necessary. You can look at cities like Baltimore where the crime rate jumped after the Freddy Grey protests due to the police cutting back on the amount of pro-active policing they're doing.

yardie 5y ago
Pro-active policing is why people like Freddy Grey are dead. They arrested him without pretext, charged him with carrying a butterfly knife (which is illegal, but after the fact), and then left him unsecured in a police van until he broke his neck.

cnfsd2 5y ago

> "By drug dealer I assume you mean person of color" Why would a drug dealer be a "person of color" ? I did not see that in the original comment and I don't understand why you would make that assumption. My experience (based on news reports - I've never purchased drugs illegally) about drug dealers is that they are a cross section of society, meaning people of every skin color and ethnicity. The color of their skin is not the deciding factor based on the reports I've seen. Why is the color of someone's skin so important to you? [edit: grammar]

yardie 5y ago
> NYPD increased stop and frisk from 100,000 stops to nearly 700,000 stops per year. 90% of those impacted were people of color — overwhelmingly black and brown men, [0] Because NYPD literally had a policy that targeted black and brown people. And when they wanted to less biased harrassment the mayor pushed back and instructed them to stop and frisk brown and black men, specifically. [0] https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/bloomberg-apologizes-stop-frisk-police-practice-67087051 https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/bloomberg-apologiz...