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It sounds like you’ve worked under terrible management if you’re having these problems. On a properly run team people don’t squabble and politic. It is possible
by luffapi 5y ago
It sounds like you’ve worked under terrible management if you’re having these problems. On a properly run team people don’t squabble and politic. It is possible to work in a healthy manner, remote or otherwise. The drama you avoid when remote stems from not being forced to co-locate with individuals for a large swath of your waking hours. That is a breeding ground for unhealthy behavior.
- marcinzm 5y agoI have yet to see a non-tiny company that doesn't have political squabbles cross-team and especially cross-department. It's the nature of many groups competing for finite resources and diverging goals. I have however seen many engineers be utterly obvious to the politics going on and getting burned by it in the end.
- luffapi 5y agoThe politics are greatly reduced when everyone is remote. No “in group” lunches or beers after work… There are entire categories of drama that wfh eliminates.
- disgruntledphd2 5y agoIt doesn't eliminate them, it just hides them from you.
- luffapi 5y agoNo it eliminates them. In office drinking, office romances, listening to petty personal problems… all completely vaporized in wfh.
- disgruntledphd2 5y agoYou're just not on those Zoom calls. Presumably the office romances/drinking sessions are gone, but politics continues unabated. Perhaps this is fine for you, but I want to point out to others that just because you don't see this happening anymore, doesn't mean that it has actually stopped happening.
- luffapi 5y ago> Presumably the office romances/drinking sessions are gone That’s a huge win and those aren’t the only detriments eliminated when you don’t force grown adults into a high school like environment.
- disgruntledphd2 5y agoFor you. For the happy marriages that didn't happen, probably not. I suggest that lots of this WFH/WFO stuff is super personal, and what benefits one may disadvantage another, so it'll be interesting to see how all of this pans out over the next few years.
- marcinzm 5y agoBasecamp was a fully remote company that got enough drama to cause almost half the employees to leave within a single month. Remote doesn't prevent in-groups but rather it allows them to grow in really odd ways without anyone noticing until it's too late to stop cleanly.
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