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Since Israel has to spend the money on US hardware, that money actually goes to maintain Jobs in the US military industry.

34679 5y ago
Maybe giving away killing machines isn't the best way to stimulate the economy.
philjackson 5y ago
> Since Israel has to spend the money on US hardware, that money actually goes to maintain Jobs in the US military industry. What a shitty cycle.
- shrimp_emoji 5y ago
  Yes, a shitty cycle in a shitty world. If not for the threat of China, I don't think the U.S. military industrial complex would have as much merit, but, under that (growing) threat, I think anyone who values freedom, democracy, and progressive ideals should see merit in the U.S. maintaining and growing capability. To do that, it seems like the defense industry needs "stuff to do". Like a muscle, that sector atrophies if left unused. It's counterintuitive, though -- why spend so much money on a glorified Skunk Works project like the F35? Why double down and start producing hundreds of them despite their issues? Because it generates/maintains experience and lessons and keeps the metabolic pathways that turn material into materiel active. If you skipped the extra steps and had the government just sustain the defense industry on welfare while it does nothing right up until we have a massive conflict, things are going to go much more poorly for you.
  - pan69 5y ago
    > If not for the threat of China... The military industrial complex will always have a bogeyman ready.
    - skinkestek 5y ago
      Well, some of them like Hitler and present day CCP are more wrll suited than others.
  - nostromo 5y ago
    We can spend that money directly on our military. There's no need to funnel it through Israel, which gains more of the benefit than we do.
xmprt 5y ago
How much of those jobs in the US military industry is going to people who need food, water, and/or shelter?
JumpCrisscross 5y ago
> Since Israel has to spend the money on US hardware, that money actually goes to maintain Jobs in the US military industry Israel is also a gem of technological innovation. We probably get the public spending back in NYSE listing fees and trading profits alone.
Ar-Curunir 5y ago
> US military industry. What a completely depressing world

34679 5y ago

Maybe giving away killing machines isn't the best way to stimulate the economy.

philjackson 5y ago

> Since Israel has to spend the money on US hardware, that money actually goes to maintain Jobs in the US military industry. What a shitty cycle.

shrimp_emoji 5y ago
Yes, a shitty cycle in a shitty world. If not for the threat of China, I don't think the U.S. military industrial complex would have as much merit, but, under that (growing) threat, I think anyone who values freedom, democracy, and progressive ideals should see merit in the U.S. maintaining and growing capability. To do that, it seems like the defense industry needs "stuff to do". Like a muscle, that sector atrophies if left unused. It's counterintuitive, though -- why spend so much money on a glorified Skunk Works project like the F35? Why double down and start producing hundreds of them despite their issues? Because it generates/maintains experience and lessons and keeps the metabolic pathways that turn material into materiel active. If you skipped the extra steps and had the government just sustain the defense industry on welfare while it does nothing right up until we have a massive conflict, things are going to go much more poorly for you.
- pan69 5y ago
  > If not for the threat of China... The military industrial complex will always have a bogeyman ready.
  - skinkestek 5y ago
    Well, some of them like Hitler and present day CCP are more wrll suited than others.
- nostromo 5y ago
  We can spend that money directly on our military. There's no need to funnel it through Israel, which gains more of the benefit than we do.

xmprt 5y ago

How much of those jobs in the US military industry is going to people who need food, water, and/or shelter?

JumpCrisscross 5y ago

> Since Israel has to spend the money on US hardware, that money actually goes to maintain Jobs in the US military industry Israel is also a gem of technological innovation. We probably get the public spending back in NYSE listing fees and trading profits alone.

Ar-Curunir 5y ago

> US military industry. What a completely depressing world