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While many functioning porn users will dismiss your comment as nonsense, I believe it really is a massive problem in society. Porn in its current iteration, is

by r0b05 5y ago

While many functioning porn users will dismiss your comment as nonsense, I believe it really is a massive problem in society. Porn in its current iteration, is similar to social media in that it literally programs your brain. We program computers but are ignorant to the fact that computers can program our behaviour if we are not careful. Yes, it is a poor substitute for intimacy but it also creates dangerous thought patterns and belief systems. These so called kinks have little to do with healthy sexual biological functioning. The perversions can become so ingrained that one will see it in real life instead of what is actually there. Remember, that a human being is programmed through our beliefs and habits, which are formed through repetitions. So be extremely careful of what you consume in this age of the Internet.

beebeepka 5y ago
Preaching posts like yours are more dangerous than whatever excess porn consumption may do to people's brains.
- r0b05 5y ago
  I don't expect everyone to get it but if my insight helps a few people then it's worth sharing.
  - syops 5y ago
    I suspect that many of the people responding haven't read any research into the topic.
  - haswell 5y ago
    What insight, specifically? You make big claims with no citation, and when asked for more info, you dismiss those questions. If you’re interested in helping others understand the insights you claim to have, bring some details to the table! I’m pretty curious about the topic, and this is an inquisitive community in general. Unfortunately, the way you’ve presented your position is not helpful, especially for a group that tends to demand scientific proof or at least a well formed hypothesis.
    - r0b05 5y ago
      Forget about the porn for a moment. Read it first as online habits programming the mind. When you visit certain websites, the content and algorithms tend to program the user's mind. You can see it with Facebook influencing politics and such. TikTok, etc. Now bring in the porn websites and you will realise how it programs the user's mind in a similar way. Eg. After some time, some people will exhibit cuckold, submission/domination, incest behaviour in real life. Some will look at an older woman and not see a mother but a milf. Hope you get the point. I don't have any scientific proof but I used to be a porn user myself. You are welcome to research the subject further if you are interested. Referring back to the parent comment, as the stimulation of vanilla porn becomes boring, the user will need to watch more and more hyper stimulating material. Not dissimilar from a drug user. Some lose the interest in regular real life sex altogether or need to incorporate their porn habits into it. I don't mean to generalize so if you don't think it applies to you then move on, but if you are interested in self improvement then tread these waters carefully.
- k__ 5y ago
  True. While I think that the porn industry has inherent problems and some people get addicted to it. For me its preachers like GP that are doing our society a great disservice by moralizing and putting perfectly normal humam behaviors down as "perversion".
  - beebeepka 5y ago
    Exactly. People shouldn't be free to do things rusty cans don't approve because our society is at stake here! There's only one solution to each problem and it's what this wise, moral person is selling because if it works for them, then it's the only possible truth.
- Spooky23 5y ago
  It’s acceptable to have a position or opinion, civilly stated. Any of the common “vices” like gambling, porn, Skinner box games, some drugs are difficult for people to manage. That dopamine hit burns behavioral pathways into the brain and is tough to undo.
  - beebeepka 5y ago
    Apparently everyone is exactly the same and the only people whose lives haven't been ruined buy these vices, as you call them, are the ones who haven't tried them. I am done here
    - Spooky23 5y ago
      Not sure why you have a hang up about this. I enjoy drinking alcohol and have no issues with it, but that doesn’t mean acknowledging that alcoholism is a thing is a problem or some judgemental act.
      - haswell 5y ago
        The potential downsides associated alcohol consumption are well understood, and this understanding has permeated most societies. The same cannot be said for porn consumption. While studies exist, this is not a well understood topic, and big claims are going to be met with skepticism and demands for evidence.
        Spooky23 5y ago
        That makes sense, as alcohol use and abuse has been with us for a millennia or more. The internet is a tad bit newer. If you look, you will find plenty of inquiry, debate and research into the topic.
  - angrais 5y ago
    Why are you (and others in this thread) grouping porn with drugs and gambling? To me, this does not make any sense. Watching porn is not a bad thing. Obviously, if you're talking about addiction then perhaps, but do you think people are addicted to porn (on average) to the extent others are to those other vices? Likewise, gambling and drugs impact you both physically and mentally, whereas the evidence for porn's impact on either is questionable at best.
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mwilliaams 5y ago
What kinks do you think are unhealthy? I’d wager that truly unhealthy kinks are uncommon.
- syops 5y ago
  Virtually all sex acts can be done in a healthy way provided both parties are truly into it. Porn has created expectations in men as to what women normally want and as a result a lot of women do sex acts that they don't truly like. Porn has distorted the view of what is 'normal' and the expectations of what a woman should consent to.
  - haswell 5y ago
    The parent comment asks for specifics, but you go back to generalizing porn in response. > Porn has distorted the view of what is ‘normal’ Surely you mean some porn, but you have not clarified which types. What do you say to plain, “vanilla” porn that pushes no boundaries? As with so many things, this is not a black or white issue, and statements like your final sentence do nothing to advance a nuanced conversation about the subject.
    - syops 5y ago
      It's easy to find research on the topic. The research supports my view.
      - haswell 5y ago
        So share the research that supports your view… As the person making claims without evidence, the onus is on you at this point. You’re not going to change minds if you’re not willing to share where you’re coming from.
        syops 5y ago
        A person sufficiently interested in exploring whether or not I'm right can easily use a search engine and find the research. If a person can't be bothered to do that on their own then I think nothing I post will change their mind. An intellectually curious person will delve into the issue once they see dissenting opinions being expressed.
essentialoils 5y ago
This Russian guy used to run a femdom site called Young Goddess. (First rate fapp material and production values.) At some point he took it down and wrote a little manifesto on the destructive effects of porn and habitual masturbation. http://web.archive.org/web/20121203092534/http://www.young-goddess.com/ http://web.archive.org/web/20121203092534/http://www.young-g... And apparently he has an update from 2020: http://web.archive.org/web/20200421160556/http://www.young-goddess.com/ http://web.archive.org/web/20200421160556/http://www.young-g...

by r0b05 5y ago

beebeepka 5y ago

Preaching posts like yours are more dangerous than whatever excess porn consumption may do to people's brains.

r0b05 5y ago
I don't expect everyone to get it but if my insight helps a few people then it's worth sharing.
- syops 5y ago
  I suspect that many of the people responding haven't read any research into the topic.
- haswell 5y ago
  What insight, specifically? You make big claims with no citation, and when asked for more info, you dismiss those questions. If you’re interested in helping others understand the insights you claim to have, bring some details to the table! I’m pretty curious about the topic, and this is an inquisitive community in general. Unfortunately, the way you’ve presented your position is not helpful, especially for a group that tends to demand scientific proof or at least a well formed hypothesis.
  - r0b05 5y ago
    Forget about the porn for a moment. Read it first as online habits programming the mind. When you visit certain websites, the content and algorithms tend to program the user's mind. You can see it with Facebook influencing politics and such. TikTok, etc. Now bring in the porn websites and you will realise how it programs the user's mind in a similar way. Eg. After some time, some people will exhibit cuckold, submission/domination, incest behaviour in real life. Some will look at an older woman and not see a mother but a milf. Hope you get the point. I don't have any scientific proof but I used to be a porn user myself. You are welcome to research the subject further if you are interested. Referring back to the parent comment, as the stimulation of vanilla porn becomes boring, the user will need to watch more and more hyper stimulating material. Not dissimilar from a drug user. Some lose the interest in regular real life sex altogether or need to incorporate their porn habits into it. I don't mean to generalize so if you don't think it applies to you then move on, but if you are interested in self improvement then tread these waters carefully.
k__ 5y ago
True. While I think that the porn industry has inherent problems and some people get addicted to it. For me its preachers like GP that are doing our society a great disservice by moralizing and putting perfectly normal humam behaviors down as "perversion".
- beebeepka 5y ago
  Exactly. People shouldn't be free to do things rusty cans don't approve because our society is at stake here! There's only one solution to each problem and it's what this wise, moral person is selling because if it works for them, then it's the only possible truth.
Spooky23 5y ago
It’s acceptable to have a position or opinion, civilly stated. Any of the common “vices” like gambling, porn, Skinner box games, some drugs are difficult for people to manage. That dopamine hit burns behavioral pathways into the brain and is tough to undo.
- beebeepka 5y ago
  Apparently everyone is exactly the same and the only people whose lives haven't been ruined buy these vices, as you call them, are the ones who haven't tried them. I am done here
  - Spooky23 5y ago
    Not sure why you have a hang up about this. I enjoy drinking alcohol and have no issues with it, but that doesn’t mean acknowledging that alcoholism is a thing is a problem or some judgemental act.
    - haswell 5y ago
      The potential downsides associated alcohol consumption are well understood, and this understanding has permeated most societies. The same cannot be said for porn consumption. While studies exist, this is not a well understood topic, and big claims are going to be met with skepticism and demands for evidence.
      - Spooky23 5y ago
        That makes sense, as alcohol use and abuse has been with us for a millennia or more. The internet is a tad bit newer. If you look, you will find plenty of inquiry, debate and research into the topic.
- angrais 5y ago
  Why are you (and others in this thread) grouping porn with drugs and gambling? To me, this does not make any sense. Watching porn is not a bad thing. Obviously, if you're talking about addiction then perhaps, but do you think people are addicted to porn (on average) to the extent others are to those other vices? Likewise, gambling and drugs impact you both physically and mentally, whereas the evidence for porn's impact on either is questionable at best.

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mwilliaams 5y ago

What kinks do you think are unhealthy? I’d wager that truly unhealthy kinks are uncommon.

syops 5y ago
Virtually all sex acts can be done in a healthy way provided both parties are truly into it. Porn has created expectations in men as to what women normally want and as a result a lot of women do sex acts that they don't truly like. Porn has distorted the view of what is 'normal' and the expectations of what a woman should consent to.
- haswell 5y ago
  The parent comment asks for specifics, but you go back to generalizing porn in response. > Porn has distorted the view of what is ‘normal’ Surely you mean some porn, but you have not clarified which types. What do you say to plain, “vanilla” porn that pushes no boundaries? As with so many things, this is not a black or white issue, and statements like your final sentence do nothing to advance a nuanced conversation about the subject.
  - syops 5y ago
    It's easy to find research on the topic. The research supports my view.
    - haswell 5y ago
      So share the research that supports your view… As the person making claims without evidence, the onus is on you at this point. You’re not going to change minds if you’re not willing to share where you’re coming from.
      - syops 5y ago
        A person sufficiently interested in exploring whether or not I'm right can easily use a search engine and find the research. If a person can't be bothered to do that on their own then I think nothing I post will change their mind. An intellectually curious person will delve into the issue once they see dissenting opinions being expressed.

essentialoils 5y ago

This Russian guy used to run a femdom site called Young Goddess. (First rate fapp material and production values.) At some point he took it down and wrote a little manifesto on the destructive effects of porn and habitual masturbation. http://web.archive.org/web/20121203092534/http://www.young-goddess.com/ http://web.archive.org/web/20121203092534/http://www.young-g... And apparently he has an update from 2020: http://web.archive.org/web/20200421160556/http://www.young-goddess.com/ http://web.archive.org/web/20200421160556/http://www.young-g...