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Adult humans who have given informed consent would probably be preferable to potatoes. In most cases, at least.
by elliekelly 5y ago
Adult humans who have given informed consent would probably be preferable to potatoes. In most cases, at least.
- amelius 5y agoWhat if the human dies in 10% of experiments? What if it's 90%?
- ptr2voidStar 5y agoWhat if those people are people who can be exploited and coerced into "giving consent" because they are poor, and need the money?
- EvilEy3 5y agoWho cares, they're poor lolz, save animal lives. /s
- hairofadog 5y agoI’m guessing the “/s” stands for “straw man” in this case.
- only_as_i_fall 5y agoI think there's an argument to be made that informed consent can't be given by someone who doesn't understand the underlying science, which is virtually everyone.
- pmoriarty 5y agoI'd be surprised if most people who advocate that drugs be tested on consenting adult humans would themselves give consent... especially to drugs which weren't already shown to be safe when tested on animals. It would be interesting if every citizen was required to act as a research subject every year, to more equitably distribute human testing. But of course most people would freak out if such a requirement was ever seriously floated, as they want drugs tested on others not on them, so it would never happen.
- tptacek 5y agoI think you're going to have trouble finding adult humans that are willing to infect themselves with, e.g., vibrio cholera to test new vaccines (or, for that matter, to have their guts biopsied for immunological assays).
- null_shift 5y agothen those things won’t be developed. if human beings determine a need, then we should pay the price for their development. not force that onto “lesser” species.
- tptacek 5y agoNot enough people agree with you for that principle to be controlling.