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They’ll just look at your family name and make an educated guess based on school demographics and your hobbies, or look you out or parents up on social media. T

They’ll just look at your family name and make an educated guess based on school demographics and your hobbies, or look you out or parents up on social media. They’re not stupid. They know who they’re discriminating against

fighterpilot 5y ago
But they don't really care about what the applicant's race is. What they care about is how that person contributes to the metrics they're trying to maximize, or in the case of Asians, minimize. To them, a 1/4 Black person 3/4 Asian person, and a full Black person, are exactly the same thing, as long as they're both incrementing the same number in their diversity report.
- b9a2cab5 5y ago
  Ah but they do. See this person that was Indian (but raised in Nigeria!) but pretended to be black to get into med school [1]. "I was always in a state of terror that I would be found out. During one interview at Case Western Reserve University, I was confronted by a black doctor and admissions committee member. He barraged me with questions about my family and personal background. I said that my family came from Nigeria. It was technically correct because my Indian parents had lived in Nigeria before moving to the United States. Finally he said, eyes cold, in more of a question than a statement, “I read your application. It says you’re black.” I nodded." [1]: https://nypost.com/2015/04/12/mindy-kalings-brother-explains-why-he-pretended-to-be-black/ https://nypost.com/2015/04/12/mindy-kalings-brother-explains...
  - fighterpilot 5y ago
    I should have added the caveat that the person needs a sufficient proportion of actual ancestry so as to make it not an outright lie.
    - nradov 5y ago
      How does one determine a sufficient proportion of actual ancestry? What is the specific dividing line between truth and outright lie?
jelsisi 5y ago
What if you are adopted? There is no way an admissions officer has the time to internet stalk each applicant.

fighterpilot 5y ago

But they don't really care about what the applicant's race is. What they care about is how that person contributes to the metrics they're trying to maximize, or in the case of Asians, minimize. To them, a 1/4 Black person 3/4 Asian person, and a full Black person, are exactly the same thing, as long as they're both incrementing the same number in their diversity report.

b9a2cab5 5y ago
Ah but they do. See this person that was Indian (but raised in Nigeria!) but pretended to be black to get into med school [1]. "I was always in a state of terror that I would be found out. During one interview at Case Western Reserve University, I was confronted by a black doctor and admissions committee member. He barraged me with questions about my family and personal background. I said that my family came from Nigeria. It was technically correct because my Indian parents had lived in Nigeria before moving to the United States. Finally he said, eyes cold, in more of a question than a statement, “I read your application. It says you’re black.” I nodded." [1]: https://nypost.com/2015/04/12/mindy-kalings-brother-explains-why-he-pretended-to-be-black/ https://nypost.com/2015/04/12/mindy-kalings-brother-explains...
- fighterpilot 5y ago
  I should have added the caveat that the person needs a sufficient proportion of actual ancestry so as to make it not an outright lie.
  - nradov 5y ago
    How does one determine a sufficient proportion of actual ancestry? What is the specific dividing line between truth and outright lie?

jelsisi 5y ago

What if you are adopted? There is no way an admissions officer has the time to internet stalk each applicant.