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What are the odds that this happens over the next decade? I'm only asking because I'm not sure where those engineers are going to come from unless we fix immig

What are the odds that this happens over the next decade? I'm only asking because I'm not sure where those engineers are going to come from unless we fix immigration laws.

pagekalisedown 15y ago
Not having enough engineers is not a new problem. They'll come from wherever they're coming from now. Note: I'm not saying immigration is any less broken.
- vrikhter 15y ago
  And where will the MBAs go?
  - pagekalisedown 15y ago
    Engineering school if I could have it my way. ;)
    - itg 15y ago
      Doubt half of them could pass the classes.
  - yuhong 15y ago
    Good question. I was thinking they should go to finance when I first thought of this issue.
- yuhong 15y ago
  Yea, I am more interested in the sense of the question of when board of directors are going to stop hiring these "legacy" MBAs as CEOs.
  - VladRussian 15y ago
    and who are sitting on these boards of directors?
blackguardx 15y ago
Engineers aren't making doctor or lawyer salaries yet, so what makes you think we don't have enough engineers?
- jayzee 15y ago
  For the past quarter-century, the American Medical Association and other industry groups have predicted a glut of doctors and worked to limit the number of new physicians. [1] The problem is that the supply for doctors is artificially constrained leading to better salaries for them. If anything let's have more doctors so that the salaries are in parity with engineers. [1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Medical_Association http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Medical_Association
  - yuhong 15y ago
    A bit of history: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/05/03/how-the-american-medical-association-got-rich.aspx http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/05/0...
    - slavak 15y ago
      All due respect, you could've chosen a better source for your bit of history than an article that uses a book by the name "The Homeopathic Revolution: Why Famous People and Cultural Heroes Choose Homeopathy" as its only source.
- vrikhter 15y ago
  When taking into consideration how much time an engineer has to spend educating himself and the salary he gets, it would take a while to match that from a doctor's perspective. For example, 4 yrs of undergrad and a starting job at Google can see you making close to over $100K in 3-4 years. As a medical student you have 4 yrs of undergrad and 4 yrs of medical school (that can be a tremendous amount of loans). Then throw in anywhere from 3-7 years of residency making $40K. Depending on the specialty you choose and how hard you wish to work the median salary can range from $120K to $450K. They may not be equal, but I know developers pulling in $200K that are just turning 30. Not to mention their lifestyle is a lot less stressful. I imagine that not a lot of people know what you can make as an engineer and too many people still don't give engineers the credit they deserve.

What are the odds that this happens over the next decade? I'm only asking because I'm not sure where those engineers are going to come from unless we fix immigration laws.

pagekalisedown 15y ago

Not having enough engineers is not a new problem. They'll come from wherever they're coming from now. Note: I'm not saying immigration is any less broken.

vrikhter 15y ago
And where will the MBAs go?
- pagekalisedown 15y ago
  Engineering school if I could have it my way. ;)
  - itg 15y ago
    Doubt half of them could pass the classes.
- yuhong 15y ago
  Good question. I was thinking they should go to finance when I first thought of this issue.
yuhong 15y ago
Yea, I am more interested in the sense of the question of when board of directors are going to stop hiring these "legacy" MBAs as CEOs.
- VladRussian 15y ago
  and who are sitting on these boards of directors?

blackguardx 15y ago

Engineers aren't making doctor or lawyer salaries yet, so what makes you think we don't have enough engineers?

jayzee 15y ago
For the past quarter-century, the American Medical Association and other industry groups have predicted a glut of doctors and worked to limit the number of new physicians. [1] The problem is that the supply for doctors is artificially constrained leading to better salaries for them. If anything let's have more doctors so that the salaries are in parity with engineers. [1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Medical_Association http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Medical_Association
- yuhong 15y ago
  A bit of history: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/05/03/how-the-american-medical-association-got-rich.aspx http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/05/0...
  - slavak 15y ago
    All due respect, you could've chosen a better source for your bit of history than an article that uses a book by the name "The Homeopathic Revolution: Why Famous People and Cultural Heroes Choose Homeopathy" as its only source.
vrikhter 15y ago
When taking into consideration how much time an engineer has to spend educating himself and the salary he gets, it would take a while to match that from a doctor's perspective. For example, 4 yrs of undergrad and a starting job at Google can see you making close to over $100K in 3-4 years. As a medical student you have 4 yrs of undergrad and 4 yrs of medical school (that can be a tremendous amount of loans). Then throw in anywhere from 3-7 years of residency making $40K. Depending on the specialty you choose and how hard you wish to work the median salary can range from $120K to $450K. They may not be equal, but I know developers pulling in $200K that are just turning 30. Not to mention their lifestyle is a lot less stressful. I imagine that not a lot of people know what you can make as an engineer and too many people still don't give engineers the credit they deserve.