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Are you saying that if I did the math, I'd move my company to a more expensive heroku (I did), onto another, cheaper VPS provider (I did, Linode, DO, rackspace

by berkes 5y ago

Are you saying that if I did the math, I'd move my company to a more expensive heroku (I did), onto another, cheaper VPS provider (I did, Linode, DO, rackspace even, for other companies) or onto self hosted&maintained hardware (this hasn't been cost effective for me for decades)?

turminal 5y ago
There's a point between being too small to use up a single beefy server and being big enough to go cloud scale, where colocating a few servers and maintaining them makes sense financially in most scenarios. For companies smaller than that renting a cheaper VPS probably makes more sense.
bsenftner 5y ago
If you're any form of hi-compute, the cloud is insanely expensive and a no-brainer for colocation, even for as little as one server. If your service requires more than the average CRUD serving of media, the cloud quickly becomes far far too expensive.
- whoknew1122 5y ago
  It's all fun and games until that co-lo goes down and with it your entire business. Speaking from someone who moved a SaaS operation from co-lo to AWS. Everyone (especially the C-suite) was much happier.
  - adflux 5y ago
    Always fun to see people compare bare metal costs to actual running cost of cloud infrastructure. For some reason such advocates always think the system administrators work for free, the network will always work, the machine will never break, the machine will not need to be replicated etc etc etc
    - berkes 5y ago
      To drive home an argument a co-owner of an old hosting company I had, calculated the costs for replacing a single HDD. Everything from buying the HDD, to his hours to the parking ticket at the data-center. He convinced me and the point was clear: a single failing HDD would costs us more than renting similar computing power for over 6 years. We had two such failing HDDs in three years prior.

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Are you saying that if I did the math, I'd move my company to a more expensive heroku (I did), onto another, cheaper VPS provider (I did, Linode, DO, rackspace

by berkes 5y ago

turminal 5y ago
There's a point between being too small to use up a single beefy server and being big enough to go cloud scale, where colocating a few servers and maintaining them makes sense financially in most scenarios. For companies smaller than that renting a cheaper VPS probably makes more sense.
bsenftner 5y ago
If you're any form of hi-compute, the cloud is insanely expensive and a no-brainer for colocation, even for as little as one server. If your service requires more than the average CRUD serving of media, the cloud quickly becomes far far too expensive.
- whoknew1122 5y ago
  It's all fun and games until that co-lo goes down and with it your entire business. Speaking from someone who moved a SaaS operation from co-lo to AWS. Everyone (especially the C-suite) was much happier.
  - adflux 5y ago
    Always fun to see people compare bare metal costs to actual running cost of cloud infrastructure. For some reason such advocates always think the system administrators work for free, the network will always work, the machine will never break, the machine will not need to be replicated etc etc etc
    - berkes 5y ago
      To drive home an argument a co-owner of an old hosting company I had, calculated the costs for replacing a single HDD. Everything from buying the HDD, to his hours to the parking ticket at the data-center. He convinced me and the point was clear: a single failing HDD would costs us more than renting similar computing power for over 6 years. We had two such failing HDDs in three years prior.