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How does Fanhouse work? > We pay creators 90% of earnings. Now, Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse from the app store unless we give them 30% of creator e

How does Fanhouse work? > We pay creators 90% of earnings. Now, Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse from the app store unless we give them 30% of creator earnings. Apple doesn't know anything about how much Fanhouse gives to creators. They just want their 30% (15% up to a million) for digital content transactions made within the app. If someone pays $10 in the Fanhouse app then Apple is going to ask for $3 (or $1.50 if they haven't made $1 million so far this year or last year). I understand that Fanhouse wants to give $9 of those dollars to the creator. They can, but they still owe their fee to Apple. Unfortunately that ends up being more money than the whole transaction so the economics just don't work. What amount is fair for Apple to charge for payment processing and the infrastructure to actually make the purchases?

barbazoo 5y ago
> What amount is fair for Apple to charge for payment processing and the infrastructure to actually make the purchases? They can charge whatever they want as long as they give developers the alternative to use a different payment provider. See Discussions around exemptions for Netflix for instance.
- RandallBrown 5y ago
  What exemptions does Netflix have? They aren't using their own payment provider since you can't actually pay for anything from within the app.
  - sangnoir 5y ago
    > What exemptions does Netflix have? Netflix is exempted from mandatory usage of Apple's payment platform. OP stated that Apple is threatening to pull the app if she does the same thing that Netflix gets away with: avoid using Apple's payment platform, and set up payments outside of the app. For a company that loves demanding its partners adopt Most-Favored Nation clauses, Apple sure does hate treating its app developers the same.
    - RandallBrown 5y ago
      Netflix doesn't take payment in its iOS app as far as I can find. They are allowed to take payment on their website for a subscription, but so is any other developer.
      - kristiandupont 5y ago
        >so is any other developer No, they are not. That was what the whole Hey debacle was about. Netflix and Spotify have special privileges there.
        RandallBrown 5y ago
        I do remember seeing articles about Apple "requiring" Hey to allow signing up in the app, but I'm not sure if Apple relented or if it was just a misunderstanding. Hey does not currently take payment in the app.
        VMtest 5y ago
        > but I'm not sure if Apple relented or if it was just a misunderstanding the replies to your comments are literally telling you the true story, at least do your own homework
        RandallBrown 5y ago
        I can find nothing on the Internet about Apple bowing to Basecamp and allowing Hey to use their own payment processing. I did however download the Hey app and try to sign up for a paid account, which you can't do.
      - querulous 5y ago
        the twitter thread/verge article are about how this is not true for fanhouse, at the very least.
        5y ago
Dylan16807 5y ago
> What amount is fair for Apple to charge for payment processing and the infrastructure to actually make the purchases? Just that? Probably about 3%. If they're not stacking more fees on top then even 5% wouldn't be an offensive number for payment processing and would give them tons of profit.

barbazoo 5y ago

> What amount is fair for Apple to charge for payment processing and the infrastructure to actually make the purchases? They can charge whatever they want as long as they give developers the alternative to use a different payment provider. See Discussions around exemptions for Netflix for instance.

RandallBrown 5y ago
What exemptions does Netflix have? They aren't using their own payment provider since you can't actually pay for anything from within the app.
- sangnoir 5y ago
  > What exemptions does Netflix have? Netflix is exempted from mandatory usage of Apple's payment platform. OP stated that Apple is threatening to pull the app if she does the same thing that Netflix gets away with: avoid using Apple's payment platform, and set up payments outside of the app. For a company that loves demanding its partners adopt Most-Favored Nation clauses, Apple sure does hate treating its app developers the same.
  - RandallBrown 5y ago
    Netflix doesn't take payment in its iOS app as far as I can find. They are allowed to take payment on their website for a subscription, but so is any other developer.
    - kristiandupont 5y ago
      >so is any other developer No, they are not. That was what the whole Hey debacle was about. Netflix and Spotify have special privileges there.
      - RandallBrown 5y ago
        I do remember seeing articles about Apple "requiring" Hey to allow signing up in the app, but I'm not sure if Apple relented or if it was just a misunderstanding. Hey does not currently take payment in the app.
        VMtest 5y ago
        > but I'm not sure if Apple relented or if it was just a misunderstanding the replies to your comments are literally telling you the true story, at least do your own homework
        RandallBrown 5y ago
        I can find nothing on the Internet about Apple bowing to Basecamp and allowing Hey to use their own payment processing. I did however download the Hey app and try to sign up for a paid account, which you can't do.
    - querulous 5y ago
      the twitter thread/verge article are about how this is not true for fanhouse, at the very least.
      - 5y ago

Dylan16807 5y ago

> What amount is fair for Apple to charge for payment processing and the infrastructure to actually make the purchases? Just that? Probably about 3%. If they're not stacking more fees on top then even 5% wouldn't be an offensive number for payment processing and would give them tons of profit.