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Eric Schmidt is not Google. Also, a half-redacted document written by an anonymous person that was accidentally released almost a decade ago does not change th

Eric Schmidt is not Google. Also, a half-redacted document written by an anonymous person that was accidentally released almost a decade ago does not change the definition of a monopoly. Yes, you can assume that it's written by someone who knows what they're talking about, just as much as you can also presume they were wrong because it was squashed. That's a moot argument. None of that changes the fact that being popular does not make something a monopoly.

tyingq 5y ago
"popular does not make something a monopoly" I didn't say that, though, or anything like that. I did mention market share dominance. But that's often related to things like "A firm is a monopolist if it can profitably raise prices substantially above the competitive level.".
- minsc__and__boo 5y ago
  >In short, dominant market share in web search. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27440321#27443928 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27440321#27443928
  - tyingq 5y ago
    The word "popular" is where? "may be inferred from a firm's possesion of a dominant share of a relevant market that is protected by entry barriers" Arguably I left out "protected by entry barriers", but that seems obvious for search.
    - minsc__and__boo 5y ago
      Dominant market share is reflective of being the popular consumer choice, given the easily accessible supply of other search engines. You're splitting hairs over the word popular now.
      - tyingq 5y ago
        It's more complicated than that, though. For example: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/7273448-DOC.html https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/7273448-DOC.html (page 3) I'm not saying they are "for sure" a monopoly. I am saying notable numbers of reasonable people with expertise in the space think they are. It's not as clear cut as you're saying.
        minsc__and__boo 5y ago
        You gave an example of monopoly, one of which is definitively not a monopoly. This entirely new example you are giving is an example of partisan posturing, not evidence of a monopoly. Look at the political affiliation of every single person who signed the letter, and look how many days it was filed before the last federal election. Again, being popular doesn't make something a monopoly, neither does being a popular target for Republicans.

tyingq 5y ago

"popular does not make something a monopoly" I didn't say that, though, or anything like that. I did mention market share dominance. But that's often related to things like "A firm is a monopolist if it can profitably raise prices substantially above the competitive level.".

minsc__and__boo 5y ago
>In short, dominant market share in web search. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27440321#27443928 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27440321#27443928
- tyingq 5y ago
  The word "popular" is where? "may be inferred from a firm's possesion of a dominant share of a relevant market that is protected by entry barriers" Arguably I left out "protected by entry barriers", but that seems obvious for search.
  - minsc__and__boo 5y ago
    Dominant market share is reflective of being the popular consumer choice, given the easily accessible supply of other search engines. You're splitting hairs over the word popular now.
    - tyingq 5y ago
      It's more complicated than that, though. For example: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/7273448-DOC.html https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/7273448-DOC.html (page 3) I'm not saying they are "for sure" a monopoly. I am saying notable numbers of reasonable people with expertise in the space think they are. It's not as clear cut as you're saying.
      - minsc__and__boo 5y ago
        You gave an example of monopoly, one of which is definitively not a monopoly. This entirely new example you are giving is an example of partisan posturing, not evidence of a monopoly. Look at the political affiliation of every single person who signed the letter, and look how many days it was filed before the last federal election. Again, being popular doesn't make something a monopoly, neither does being a popular target for Republicans.