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FWIW, foone asked Hacker News to stop linking to his twitter account. https://twitter.com/Foone/status/1310434318490034176 https://twitter.com/Foone/status/131

by bb88 5y ago

FWIW, foone asked Hacker News to stop linking to his twitter account. https://twitter.com/Foone/status/1310434318490034176 https://twitter.com/Foone/status/1310434318490034176

Somasis 5y ago
*their
- ridaj 5y ago
  *�� https://mobile.twitter.com/Foone/status/1067912348881408002 https://mobile.twitter.com/Foone/status/1067912348881408002
- decremental 5y ago
  Don't be that guy.
  - rosstex 5y ago
    Don't be that guy.
  - epistasis 5y ago
    Being "that guy" in this scenario would mean using terms for some one that they would prefer not be used. It's not a big deal to correct pronouns, any more that it is to correct the spelling of some one's name. Acknowledge, move on, and forget.
    - decremental 5y ago
      Stop pushing your weirdo ideology on people. Just be normal.
    - deleted 5y ago
      [deleted]
  - DonHopkins 5y ago
    From a look at your posting history, you're just jealous because you ARE that guy, who goes out of his way to be an asshole, then pretends he's the victim, while actually being a childish bully. Your pathologically obsessive focus on certain other people's issues makes it transparently obvious to anyone who's not you, that you have a lot of your own deep issues that you haven't dealt with.
- sixothree 5y ago
  *it's
- bb88 5y ago
  Thanks. I'll remind myself to use their preferred pronouns from now on.
xwdv 5y ago
He doesn’t get to decide that.
- egypturnash 5y ago
  He gets to ask, and you get to decide how much of a jerk you think you are for disrespecting his desires.
  - monsieurbanana 5y ago
    It's an interesting question though. I feel like in this case the right thing to do would be to stop linking to his twitter. But what if he was a "bad" (in quotes) guy? Like the CEO from the recent repl.it debacle. What if he asks to stop linking to his bullying tweets? Nobody would side with him. So.. where's the line? Is anything public fair play? Who decides if someone is bad or good? The collective internet mob? Surely nothing can go wrong with that.
    - bb88 5y ago
      > It's an interesting question though. I feel like in this case the right thing to do would be to stop linking to his twitter. JWZ's site sends you to a hairy testicle if an article on his website is linked from this site.
  - catblast01 5y ago
    Fun times we live in where a system pretty much designed primarily for attention seeking over effective communication now can be deemed some kind of private/protected space. This is classic manipulative behavior though, make a big scene in a public forum and then claim your privacy is being invaded. If you don’t want the attention, delete it.
    - melq 5y ago
      They never claimed their privacy was being invaded. They simply asked (allegedly? I haven't seen any actual request from them but lets just assume there is one) not to be linked to from HN. They aren't manipulating anyone... they're just making it known they'd prefer not to be linked to from another platform. Is this a reasonable expectation? I'm not sure -- my gut says probably not. Is it a reasonable request? IMO yes. Contrived scenario for expository purposes: lets say I'm an expert in pre-civil war era southern cuisine. If I find out that people on stormfront are linking to and discussing my posts for their own agenda, do I have a right to make them stop? Of course not. Is it reasonable for me to say "I'd prefer if your platform didn't link to my blog"? Of course it is.
kadoban 5y ago
There's some leeway in the language there. They say they "kinda wish" that HN was a twitter account so they could block it. That's not really the same thing IMO, that could very well mean they're of two minds on the topic, or it could mean they just threw in "kinda" without thinking about it. Have they been more explicit elsewhere?
- zaarn 5y ago
  Just because there is leeway doesn't mean you have to abuse it to post things from their account anyway.
  - kadoban 5y ago
    Because there is leeway I personally don't know if that's actually their preference or not. If everyone took everything I ever said I "kinda wish" as a solid preference, I wouldn't be at all happy.
    - zaarn 5y ago
      On the other hand, unless there is evidence of the contrary, it would be rude to not follow the wishes of another person in how you treat them.
      - kadoban 5y ago
        Again, if that is actually their wishes.

by bb88 5y ago

FWIW, foone asked Hacker News to stop linking to his twitter account. https://twitter.com/Foone/status/1310434318490034176 https://twitter.com/Foone/status/1310434318490034176

Somasis 5y ago

*their

ridaj 5y ago
*�� https://mobile.twitter.com/Foone/status/1067912348881408002 https://mobile.twitter.com/Foone/status/1067912348881408002
decremental 5y ago
Don't be that guy.
- rosstex 5y ago
  Don't be that guy.
- epistasis 5y ago
  Being "that guy" in this scenario would mean using terms for some one that they would prefer not be used. It's not a big deal to correct pronouns, any more that it is to correct the spelling of some one's name. Acknowledge, move on, and forget.
  - decremental 5y ago
    Stop pushing your weirdo ideology on people. Just be normal.
  - deleted 5y ago
    [deleted]
- DonHopkins 5y ago
  From a look at your posting history, you're just jealous because you ARE that guy, who goes out of his way to be an asshole, then pretends he's the victim, while actually being a childish bully. Your pathologically obsessive focus on certain other people's issues makes it transparently obvious to anyone who's not you, that you have a lot of your own deep issues that you haven't dealt with.
sixothree 5y ago
*it's
bb88 5y ago
Thanks. I'll remind myself to use their preferred pronouns from now on.

xwdv 5y ago

He doesn’t get to decide that.

egypturnash 5y ago
He gets to ask, and you get to decide how much of a jerk you think you are for disrespecting his desires.
- monsieurbanana 5y ago
  It's an interesting question though. I feel like in this case the right thing to do would be to stop linking to his twitter. But what if he was a "bad" (in quotes) guy? Like the CEO from the recent repl.it debacle. What if he asks to stop linking to his bullying tweets? Nobody would side with him. So.. where's the line? Is anything public fair play? Who decides if someone is bad or good? The collective internet mob? Surely nothing can go wrong with that.
  - bb88 5y ago
    > It's an interesting question though. I feel like in this case the right thing to do would be to stop linking to his twitter. JWZ's site sends you to a hairy testicle if an article on his website is linked from this site.
- catblast01 5y ago
  Fun times we live in where a system pretty much designed primarily for attention seeking over effective communication now can be deemed some kind of private/protected space. This is classic manipulative behavior though, make a big scene in a public forum and then claim your privacy is being invaded. If you don’t want the attention, delete it.
  - melq 5y ago
    They never claimed their privacy was being invaded. They simply asked (allegedly? I haven't seen any actual request from them but lets just assume there is one) not to be linked to from HN. They aren't manipulating anyone... they're just making it known they'd prefer not to be linked to from another platform. Is this a reasonable expectation? I'm not sure -- my gut says probably not. Is it a reasonable request? IMO yes. Contrived scenario for expository purposes: lets say I'm an expert in pre-civil war era southern cuisine. If I find out that people on stormfront are linking to and discussing my posts for their own agenda, do I have a right to make them stop? Of course not. Is it reasonable for me to say "I'd prefer if your platform didn't link to my blog"? Of course it is.

kadoban 5y ago

There's some leeway in the language there. They say they "kinda wish" that HN was a twitter account so they could block it. That's not really the same thing IMO, that could very well mean they're of two minds on the topic, or it could mean they just threw in "kinda" without thinking about it. Have they been more explicit elsewhere?

zaarn 5y ago
Just because there is leeway doesn't mean you have to abuse it to post things from their account anyway.
- kadoban 5y ago
  Because there is leeway I personally don't know if that's actually their preference or not. If everyone took everything I ever said I "kinda wish" as a solid preference, I wouldn't be at all happy.
  - zaarn 5y ago
    On the other hand, unless there is evidence of the contrary, it would be rude to not follow the wishes of another person in how you treat them.
    - kadoban 5y ago
      Again, if that is actually their wishes.