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Big difference

by caspii 5y ago

Big difference

adolph 5y ago
Churchill: “Madam, would you sleep with me for five million pounds?” Socialite: “My goodness, Mr. Churchill… Well, I suppose… we would have to discuss terms, of course…” Churchill: “Would you sleep with me for five pounds?” Socialite: “Mr. Churchill, what kind of woman do you think I am?!” Churchill: “Madam, we’ve already established that. Now we are haggling about the price.” http://weblog.raganwald.com/2007/07/haggling-about-price.html http://weblog.raganwald.com/2007/07/haggling-about-price.htm...
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- redis_mlc 5y ago
  Churchill has an interesting reputation. He was a failed military commander pre-PM, even ridiculed after the failed landing at Gallipoli: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallipoli_campaign https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallipoli_campaign Yet we most remember him as a fierce leader from the top, and he did so while under extreme stress due to U-boat attacks strangling shipping to Britain, and puzzlement from the German alien-level advanced technology (V-2 hypersonic ballistic missiles, long-range radio navigation, etc.) (His scientific advisor told him the above technologies were disinformation, and couldn't be real.) It's important to realize that while French and British public opinion became soft on the value of their culture and nationhood, Churchill knew better. Just like the pernicious impact of cultural Marxism today in the US, which must be fought as a war on every front.
  - redis_mlc 5y ago
    I'm guessing the downvotes are to support cultural Marxism. I can't think of anything good about that. Can you explain why?
  - smcl 5y ago
    The downvotes will be because the article is about SEO and your comment (while factually OK on Churchill and WW2) is wildly off-topic and ends with a call to action against "cultural Marxism". That last bit is controversial not because people disagree with you, but because it looks like flamebait.
    - redis_mlc 5y ago
      Since when is being anti-Marxist trolling? Is that how misguided HNers have become?
      - smcl 5y ago
        I have hit "vouch" on this post because I wanted to respond. Being anti-Marxist (you originally said cultural-Marxist which is a reference to something different) is a perfectly valid position to hold, and if you spend much time on HN you'll find that there's actually a fair amount of political discussions and representation from the left, the centre and the right. But what you said looked weirdly out of place in this thread, and to be honest it seemed to me you were more interested in starting a fight than anything else.
        redis_mlc 5y ago
        There's no distinction between Marxism and cultural Marxism as their goals are the same - to restructure society for the benefit of Marxist leaders. And there's been virtually no discussion of centrist viewpoints on HN in the past year - the US Democratic Party and BLM Inc. are Marxist organizations. Anything that's not leftist is automatically MAGA on HN despite facts. The reason you keep hearing racism accusations from the left is that they don't want solutions - they want appeasement, to advance Marxism. Luckily Senator Manchin (D) refuses to allow Marxist policies to be codified into law. Someday reality will dawn on HN about Marxism in the US, like the recent "discovery" here that the lab leak theory was always plausible. It's been embarrassing seeing HN downvote that for a year, too. (BTW: LLNL published a secret report in May 2020 that the lab leak theory was credible. Oops.) If what I said isn't clear to you about progressives, watch this video of a socialist Swede interviewing Ann Coulter. The Swede represents the average US leftist today, who thinks they know what's going on in the US, but has no understanding beyond virtue signalling. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxTtjGamJtI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxTtjGamJtI
- Dylan16807 5y ago
  1. This guy is doing SEO but I don't see any scam. 2. There is a qualitative difference between life-changing money and day-job money. 3. "I won't risk my life any amount" is a dumb ideal, because everything has a risk of death.
  - adolph 5y ago
    1. Yes, if you don’t see the entirety of SEO as a scam then truly the sarcasm of the ancestor comments and Churchill’s equivocation don’t make sense. 2. Is one’s sense of right and wrong for all things driven by the amount of money involved? Are there some things money can’t buy? 3. Would you elaborate on this assertion? I don’t quite understand.
    - Dylan16807 5y ago
      > Is one’s sense of right and wrong for all things driven by the amount of money involved? Are there some things money can’t buy? Sleeping with someone isn't exactly in the realm of moral repugnancy. It's not about right and wrong, the implication is that she is a whore. But she's not, because she wouldn't take money for sex as her job. > Would you elaborate on this assertion? I don’t quite understand. The article you linked is claiming that "the very real possibility of being killed" should disqualify the job, no matter what the pay. But that's an extremely myopic way of evaluating risk. Would he refuse on principle to commute an extra 15 minutes, even if it adds up to the same risk after 20 years? It doesn't look like it. But to take that risk all at once in exchange for 20 years of pay or even 50 years of pay means you've been "corrupted". He's decided that some risks to yourself are fine and some risks to yourself are unacceptable based on arbitrary measures and not what actually keeps you safest. Overly hard stances for risk mitigation lead to a lot of really bad conclusions and contradictions.
    - joeyoungblood 5y ago
      SEO is not a scam and itself is endorsed by major search engines. Trying to position it as such removes any credibility you might have had.

Big difference

by caspii 5y ago

Big difference

Churchill: “Madam, would you sleep with me for five million pounds?” Socialite: “My goodness, Mr. Churchill… Well, I suppose… we would have to discuss terms, of course…” Churchill: “Would you sleep with me for five pounds?” Socialite: “Mr. Churchill, what kind of woman do you think I am?!” Churchill: “Madam, we’ve already established that. Now we are haggling about the price.” http://weblog.raganwald.com/2007/07/haggling-about-price.html http://weblog.raganwald.com/2007/07/haggling-about-price.htm...

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redis_mlc 5y ago
Churchill has an interesting reputation. He was a failed military commander pre-PM, even ridiculed after the failed landing at Gallipoli: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallipoli_campaign https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallipoli_campaign Yet we most remember him as a fierce leader from the top, and he did so while under extreme stress due to U-boat attacks strangling shipping to Britain, and puzzlement from the German alien-level advanced technology (V-2 hypersonic ballistic missiles, long-range radio navigation, etc.) (His scientific advisor told him the above technologies were disinformation, and couldn't be real.) It's important to realize that while French and British public opinion became soft on the value of their culture and nationhood, Churchill knew better. Just like the pernicious impact of cultural Marxism today in the US, which must be fought as a war on every front.
- redis_mlc 5y ago
  I'm guessing the downvotes are to support cultural Marxism. I can't think of anything good about that. Can you explain why?
- smcl 5y ago
  The downvotes will be because the article is about SEO and your comment (while factually OK on Churchill and WW2) is wildly off-topic and ends with a call to action against "cultural Marxism". That last bit is controversial not because people disagree with you, but because it looks like flamebait.
  - redis_mlc 5y ago
    Since when is being anti-Marxist trolling? Is that how misguided HNers have become?
    - smcl 5y ago
      I have hit "vouch" on this post because I wanted to respond. Being anti-Marxist (you originally said cultural-Marxist which is a reference to something different) is a perfectly valid position to hold, and if you spend much time on HN you'll find that there's actually a fair amount of political discussions and representation from the left, the centre and the right. But what you said looked weirdly out of place in this thread, and to be honest it seemed to me you were more interested in starting a fight than anything else.
      - redis_mlc 5y ago
        There's no distinction between Marxism and cultural Marxism as their goals are the same - to restructure society for the benefit of Marxist leaders. And there's been virtually no discussion of centrist viewpoints on HN in the past year - the US Democratic Party and BLM Inc. are Marxist organizations. Anything that's not leftist is automatically MAGA on HN despite facts. The reason you keep hearing racism accusations from the left is that they don't want solutions - they want appeasement, to advance Marxism. Luckily Senator Manchin (D) refuses to allow Marxist policies to be codified into law. Someday reality will dawn on HN about Marxism in the US, like the recent "discovery" here that the lab leak theory was always plausible. It's been embarrassing seeing HN downvote that for a year, too. (BTW: LLNL published a secret report in May 2020 that the lab leak theory was credible. Oops.) If what I said isn't clear to you about progressives, watch this video of a socialist Swede interviewing Ann Coulter. The Swede represents the average US leftist today, who thinks they know what's going on in the US, but has no understanding beyond virtue signalling. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxTtjGamJtI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxTtjGamJtI
Dylan16807 5y ago
1. This guy is doing SEO but I don't see any scam. 2. There is a qualitative difference between life-changing money and day-job money. 3. "I won't risk my life any amount" is a dumb ideal, because everything has a risk of death.
- adolph 5y ago
  1. Yes, if you don’t see the entirety of SEO as a scam then truly the sarcasm of the ancestor comments and Churchill’s equivocation don’t make sense. 2. Is one’s sense of right and wrong for all things driven by the amount of money involved? Are there some things money can’t buy? 3. Would you elaborate on this assertion? I don’t quite understand.
  - Dylan16807 5y ago
    > Is one’s sense of right and wrong for all things driven by the amount of money involved? Are there some things money can’t buy? Sleeping with someone isn't exactly in the realm of moral repugnancy. It's not about right and wrong, the implication is that she is a whore. But she's not, because she wouldn't take money for sex as her job. > Would you elaborate on this assertion? I don’t quite understand. The article you linked is claiming that "the very real possibility of being killed" should disqualify the job, no matter what the pay. But that's an extremely myopic way of evaluating risk. Would he refuse on principle to commute an extra 15 minutes, even if it adds up to the same risk after 20 years? It doesn't look like it. But to take that risk all at once in exchange for 20 years of pay or even 50 years of pay means you've been "corrupted". He's decided that some risks to yourself are fine and some risks to yourself are unacceptable based on arbitrary measures and not what actually keeps you safest. Overly hard stances for risk mitigation lead to a lot of really bad conclusions and contradictions.
  - joeyoungblood 5y ago
    SEO is not a scam and itself is endorsed by major search engines. Trying to position it as such removes any credibility you might have had.