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Six months ago. I’m not sure it’s fair to say “there’s a pandemic going on” anymore. The vaccine is readily available. There are cases where this might not be e

Six months ago. I’m not sure it’s fair to say “there’s a pandemic going on” anymore. The vaccine is readily available. There are cases where this might not be enough to end the pandemic from your perspective (immunocompromised family member, etc) but we wouldn’t expect very many.

michaelmrose 5y ago
Only 41.6% of the US population is fully vaccinated with many more either planning to get vaccinated or in the process of getting vaccinated. The mere existence of the vaccine doesn't mean the pandemic is over.
- jayspell 5y ago
  Everyone who wants the vaccine can get the vaccine. If you get the vaccine, you have a minuscule, almost zero chance of having a bad response the virus. If you don't have the vaccine and you get the virus you have a small chance (if you're healthy) of having a terminal response to the virus, but if you do, it's on you, you chose to not get vaccinated. I believe it's safe to say we can back off the panic phase of the virus.
  - michaelmrose 5y ago
    Last I checked 3% of deaths are among vaccinated people. That isn't what "almost zero" looks like. It's really good but it aint zero. Next up with 58% of the population not being fully vaccinated yet we have plenty of opportunity for problems if we don't take the ball all the way to the end zone especially with vaccinated people not being exactly evenly distributed. I give you the fine state of Mississippi where only 1/3 is vaccinated and they are only doing 15k vaccinations per week. If the population even wanted a vaccine at this rate it would achieve immunity some time in 2023. Its like a nice little virus lab where there are plenty of unvaccinated hanging around for existing strains but the first strain to successfully attack vaccinated will gain a huge advantage. https://msdh.ms.gov/msdhsite/_static/resources/12130.pdf https://msdh.ms.gov/msdhsite/_static/resources/12130.pdf
    - jayspell 5y ago
      So are you stating that 3% of the daily deaths from COVID-19 are of fully vaccinated people? I cannot find anything backing this up online, and even that seems like it would be a near zero number if you're measuring against recoveries.
      - michaelmrose 5y ago
        I heard it on local WA state tv news which makes it harder to dig up. The thesis of the story was that almost all the deaths were people that hadn't vaccinated ergo vaccines work. What I am seeing from the CDC is around 535 break through deaths out of 3016 hospitalizations as of June 1st but this isn't broken down by time frame so I cannot compare a time frame to see what percentage exactly are break through deaths however looking at the rough magnitude of breakthrough deaths vs deaths makes me doubt that 3% is accurate nationwide.
- closeparen 5y ago
  I would expect the 58% to be children and Republicans. Children aren’t in the labor market and the “COVID is a hoax” people weren’t changing their behavior over it in the first place. Is there some evidence that many Americans who want the vaccine still don’t have it? What is stopping them?
  - michaelmrose 5y ago
    Approx 85% of the population is over 12. 75% is over 18. The percentage who say they wont vaccinate or wont vaccinate unless its required are 20%. This means that 15% are too young at this point to vaccinate and 17% (20% of 85%) wont vaccinate. This means full vaccination of everyone who intends to vaccinate would be about 68% of the population. This means that 26% of the population is still in progress.
imtringued 5y ago
We have reached a point where the pandemic is only a problem for customer facing jobs. It's exactly those jobs that cant find enough workers.

michaelmrose 5y ago

Only 41.6% of the US population is fully vaccinated with many more either planning to get vaccinated or in the process of getting vaccinated. The mere existence of the vaccine doesn't mean the pandemic is over.

jayspell 5y ago
Everyone who wants the vaccine can get the vaccine. If you get the vaccine, you have a minuscule, almost zero chance of having a bad response the virus. If you don't have the vaccine and you get the virus you have a small chance (if you're healthy) of having a terminal response to the virus, but if you do, it's on you, you chose to not get vaccinated. I believe it's safe to say we can back off the panic phase of the virus.
- michaelmrose 5y ago
  Last I checked 3% of deaths are among vaccinated people. That isn't what "almost zero" looks like. It's really good but it aint zero. Next up with 58% of the population not being fully vaccinated yet we have plenty of opportunity for problems if we don't take the ball all the way to the end zone especially with vaccinated people not being exactly evenly distributed. I give you the fine state of Mississippi where only 1/3 is vaccinated and they are only doing 15k vaccinations per week. If the population even wanted a vaccine at this rate it would achieve immunity some time in 2023. Its like a nice little virus lab where there are plenty of unvaccinated hanging around for existing strains but the first strain to successfully attack vaccinated will gain a huge advantage. https://msdh.ms.gov/msdhsite/_static/resources/12130.pdf https://msdh.ms.gov/msdhsite/_static/resources/12130.pdf
  - jayspell 5y ago
    So are you stating that 3% of the daily deaths from COVID-19 are of fully vaccinated people? I cannot find anything backing this up online, and even that seems like it would be a near zero number if you're measuring against recoveries.
    - michaelmrose 5y ago
      I heard it on local WA state tv news which makes it harder to dig up. The thesis of the story was that almost all the deaths were people that hadn't vaccinated ergo vaccines work. What I am seeing from the CDC is around 535 break through deaths out of 3016 hospitalizations as of June 1st but this isn't broken down by time frame so I cannot compare a time frame to see what percentage exactly are break through deaths however looking at the rough magnitude of breakthrough deaths vs deaths makes me doubt that 3% is accurate nationwide.
closeparen 5y ago
I would expect the 58% to be children and Republicans. Children aren’t in the labor market and the “COVID is a hoax” people weren’t changing their behavior over it in the first place. Is there some evidence that many Americans who want the vaccine still don’t have it? What is stopping them?
- michaelmrose 5y ago
  Approx 85% of the population is over 12. 75% is over 18. The percentage who say they wont vaccinate or wont vaccinate unless its required are 20%. This means that 15% are too young at this point to vaccinate and 17% (20% of 85%) wont vaccinate. This means full vaccination of everyone who intends to vaccinate would be about 68% of the population. This means that 26% of the population is still in progress.

imtringued 5y ago

We have reached a point where the pandemic is only a problem for customer facing jobs. It's exactly those jobs that cant find enough workers.