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Google Search fails the cumulative layout shift test. I can't count the number of times the "People also search for" box pops up in the middle of my search res
by cecilpl2 5y ago
Google Search fails the cumulative layout shift test.
I can't count the number of times the "People also search for" box pops up in the middle of my search results 3-4 seconds after load. It's just enough time for me to identify the result I want, move the mouse there, and then proceed click on the new, different link that just loaded under my mouse.
It's infuriating.
- diveanon 5y agoAt this point you have to assume that is by design.
- tomcooks 5y agoI don't understand the downvotes you are getting, considering how they used such tricks whenever possible
- rightbyte 5y agoYe. It is like those adds in Android apps that happen to load where the button you try to click was. It is obvious someone at Google is trying to game some metric with accidental clicks.
- maccard 5y agoIt's more likely the people who develop and test and prioritize the features live in mountain view, with 5g and gigabit fiber with ultra low latency to the data centers.
- prollings 5y agoSure, but these people must have left that golden zone at some point and had their clicks stolen like the rest of us.
- dylan604 5y agoThat's why the dev tools in browsers have an option to simulate slower data speeds to test this kind of thing. Having good connectivity and failing to provide a useable experience for slower connections is just bad dev work.
- catlifeonmars 5y agoOr, it’s a symptom of the ownership of the search experience being smeared out through a large organization.
- 0xffff2 5y agoWhen I lived in Mountain View the absolute fastest internet connection I could get at home was 100mbs Comcast that was never that fast and had all kinds of bizarre and inexplicable random latencies. My internet is faster and infinitely more reliable since I moved to rural Southern Oregon mid pandemic.
- seanp2k2 5y agoHahahahaha, my biggest surprised moving to Silicon Valley right down the street from Google was how even in their local neighborhood, Comcast still had a monopoly on internet access. My apartment offered the choice between Comcast or no internet. Even today, FTTH in the Bay Area is not commonly available and indeed we can’t get it in our neighborhood, only FTTN with no guaranteed speeds. UVerse won’t even install at our address, so we’re stuck with Comcast still. Sonic is over ATT’s last mile and they won’t install at our address.
- roblabla 5y agoYeah, I have a custom rule in ublock origin to remove it. It's literally the only custom rule I have, but it happened to me so damn often that it ended up being worth the time to identify the element so I could permanently block it. In case anyone ever needs it: google.com##div[id^="eob_"]
- cco 5y agoThank you so much! This is such a small little quality of life improvement. And for others trying, you need to just add this line to uBlock Origin's "Filters" tab, not the "Rules" tab.
- frosted-flakes 5y agoThe YouTube app for Android even does this. I have slow Internet, so I always read the description while the video loads. But often when I go to click the description box to expand it, a banner ad loads in its place and pushes the description down.
- grey-area 5y agoBut A/B testing shows people love those links with that behaviour, they follow those links 73.523% of the time!
- Griffinsauce 5y agoYou kid but I've seen product teams put interaction metrics like this as OKRs and ruin their product. "Data driven" development so often forgets about common fucking sense.
- marcosdumay 5y agoIt's not common sense, contesting your priors and verifying your assumptions is one of the hardest and most important parts of doing data-driven science. It's also not surprising that when you take a set of random people without science training, they'll just cargo-cult the most visible parts and forget about the hidden, essential ones. It should also not surprise anybody what part they forget about, since the calgo-cult speech is literally about this exact problem, but with trained scientists (did I say it was hard?) instead of random people.
- Griffinsauce 5y agoI think our thoughts aren't mutually exclusive. Good science > intuition/experience/best practices etc > bad science. I suspect we agree that a lot of product development is based on bad science. Yes doing good science would be best, but let's at least stop doing bad science.
- marcosdumay 5y agoOh, the problem is that it's not as simple as intuition/experience/etc being better than bad science. Often enough your intuition is just wrong, and bad science is just right. A better way is dealing with confidence values with your intuition, and changing the required quality of science based on the confidence of the priors you are trying to verify. But then, this is hard too. The real problem here is that, as you complained, those people aren't just competent enough on the work they are doing. I guess my point is only that this shouldn't be surprising, as it's a hard job.
- Traubenfuchs 5y agoThat box is obviously and clearly malicious.
- catlifeonmars 5y agoI don’t know if I would go that far. Do you have evidence of this?
- oblio 5y agoIt's the most used webpage on the planet and for sure their 300 IQ engineers run into this daily. That entire page probably had tens of thousands of UX work put into it. If it works like that, it's intentional.
- seanp2k2 5y agoI saw a thing before talking about how much each byte of code on the Google homepage costs to deliver. I wondered then why the homepage isn’t just integrated into their browser, as in literally ship the code for it and load it from local cache. I guess the URL bar already does that.
- Blikkentrekker 5y ago> 3-4 seconds after load. It's just enough time for me to identify the result I want, move the mouse there, and then proceed click on the new, different link that just loaded under my mouse. You have in duplex in one small fragment enunciated wonderfully why the rodent is never to be used for anything but video games and image editing.
- tomerv 5y agoIt took me several tries to understand this comment. In the first pass it looks like the result of some kind of Markov chain text generator.
- janci 5y agoI'm starting to think this is on purpose. Sometimes I get tricked twice, after pressing back and immediately going to click the correct link this little bastard materializes under the cursor.