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And many scientists acting as if it were anathema to suggest a lab origin while conveniently keeping quiet on their own conflicts of interest.

goatlover 5y ago
Which in some ways is even worse, since one would expect scientists to have a higher standard for veracity than the media and politicians.
- encryptluks2 5y ago
  Why put someone or something up on a pedestal like that? Academia and scientists have justified almost every horrific thing the US has ever done and yet here we are again like this time is going to be any different.
  - spookthesunset 5y ago
    > Why put someone or something up on a pedestal like that? Since March of 2020 all criticism and skepticism has been shouted down with "are you 'An Expert'"? The entire pandemic has been nothing but a thinly guised appeal to authority. And a very narrow set of authority at that--the only authority we were allowed to listen to are the ones who sold this as the worst thing ever. Hope or optimism or just asking basic questions was never allowed.
    - belltaco 5y ago
      Nah, it was a reaction to things like this at the beginning and far worse later on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAh4uS4f78o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAh4uS4f78o
- logifail 5y ago
  > one would expect scientists to have a higher standard for veracity than the media and politicians (Full disclosure: have science PhD, wife has science PhD, sister has science PhD): with no snark intended: have you met (m)any scientists?
  - orwin 5y ago
    Yes! An i agree with GP: while they sometime talk about some junky theory (the one i spoke with the most is a retired geneticist agronomist - J.Mallard, who try to convince me that drosophila are somehow born either righty or lefty, and that their choices are caused by genetics), they utter the words "Maybe, i don't know, possibly, i do believe so, but don't take my words for it..." more than the average population. Disagree?
newacct583 5y ago
>> What's disconcerting is how the lab leak was treated as a conspiracy theory > And many scientists acting as if it were anathema to suggest a lab origin while conveniently keeping quiet on their own conflicts of interest. Do you people not hear yourselves? You're alleging a conspiracy to suppress the discussion of the conspiracy discussion that has clearly not been suppressed. You guys have been screaming about it endlessly for going on a year now. We've heard you loud and clear, we just don't believe you. It hasn't been covered by media sources, because it has little to no evidence. That's not "suppression", it's journalism.
- goatlover 5y ago
  Did you not read the Vanity Fair article posted on here a couple days ago? Also who is "you people"? I haven't been posting about the lab leak until now.

goatlover 5y ago

Which in some ways is even worse, since one would expect scientists to have a higher standard for veracity than the media and politicians.

encryptluks2 5y ago
Why put someone or something up on a pedestal like that? Academia and scientists have justified almost every horrific thing the US has ever done and yet here we are again like this time is going to be any different.
- spookthesunset 5y ago
  > Why put someone or something up on a pedestal like that? Since March of 2020 all criticism and skepticism has been shouted down with "are you 'An Expert'"? The entire pandemic has been nothing but a thinly guised appeal to authority. And a very narrow set of authority at that--the only authority we were allowed to listen to are the ones who sold this as the worst thing ever. Hope or optimism or just asking basic questions was never allowed.
  - belltaco 5y ago
    Nah, it was a reaction to things like this at the beginning and far worse later on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAh4uS4f78o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAh4uS4f78o
logifail 5y ago
> one would expect scientists to have a higher standard for veracity than the media and politicians (Full disclosure: have science PhD, wife has science PhD, sister has science PhD): with no snark intended: have you met (m)any scientists?
- orwin 5y ago
  Yes! An i agree with GP: while they sometime talk about some junky theory (the one i spoke with the most is a retired geneticist agronomist - J.Mallard, who try to convince me that drosophila are somehow born either righty or lefty, and that their choices are caused by genetics), they utter the words "Maybe, i don't know, possibly, i do believe so, but don't take my words for it..." more than the average population. Disagree?

newacct583 5y ago

>> What's disconcerting is how the lab leak was treated as a conspiracy theory > And many scientists acting as if it were anathema to suggest a lab origin while conveniently keeping quiet on their own conflicts of interest. Do you people not hear yourselves? You're alleging a conspiracy to suppress the discussion of the conspiracy discussion that has clearly not been suppressed. You guys have been screaming about it endlessly for going on a year now. We've heard you loud and clear, we just don't believe you. It hasn't been covered by media sources, because it has little to no evidence. That's not "suppression", it's journalism.

goatlover 5y ago
Did you not read the Vanity Fair article posted on here a couple days ago? Also who is "you people"? I haven't been posting about the lab leak until now.