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“Tank Man”
- npteljes 5y agoThis must be a locality thing because if I follow the link, I get the original tank man images, and also images that complain about MS censoring the tank man images. This is with safe search: Moderate setting too.
- JW1800 5y agoUnsurprising given DDG simply repackages Bing results
- Jiocus 5y ago“DuckDuckGo gets its results from over four hundred sources. [..] we also source from multiple partners, most commonly from Bing” [1]: https://help.duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/sources/ https://help.duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/so...
- detaro 5y agoThe omitted [..] bit is kind of relevant, since it makes clear that the hundreds of sources are not for the main results.
- Jiocus 5y agoYes, it is relevant, but I was replying to a statement which wasn't accurate. We can have different opinions of what “results” mean, but the linked DDG FAQ piece is on their view of Results Sources and what that is. Their results for “Tank Man” (and others) though, has the same shortcomings as Bing proper – so their reliance on Bing is absolutely a limiting factor for all to see.
- JW1800 5y agoThat's marketing speak, in reality the overwhelming majority are simply Bing results.
- Jiocus 5y agoYes, most commonly so.
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- detaro 5y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27394925 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27394925 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27395635 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27395635
- allears 5y agoThat's funny, when I search from my own DuckDuckGo link, I get plenty of results.
- clort 5y agoplenty of text results (including wikipedia as top link) but no images
- oneshoe 5y agoI believe the search will work but the image search will return zero results.
- aclelland 5y agoYeah https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22tank+man%22&ia=web https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22tank+man%22&ia=web works fine but if you press 'images' you see no results (or, at least I see nothing). "Tank Woman" works fine.
- fuji011 5y agointeresting video. https://twitter.com/Sabina_91521/status/1400614650819928067?s=20 https://twitter.com/Sabina_91521/status/1400614650819928067?...
- lettergram 5y agoI've noticed this recently around several topics. Including, but not limited to, virus reporting. Particularly, related to Fauci's FOIA requested emails. They didn't appear to be doing this even 3-4 months ago. Although, I'm not sure how it is related to "tank man".
- Infernal 5y agoInterestingly, when I follow that link I first get "Images blocked by safe search", but when I turn off safe search, I then get "no results".
- ignoramous 5y agoSame here.
- incomplete 5y agothat's odd -- i also turned off safe search, and got decent links to wikipedia and a bunch of news articles...
- csunbird 5y agoThe image search is broken.
- incomplete 5y agoderp, i see that now...
- lepasana 5y agoSame here
- alecb 5y agoThe regular DDG results for 'tank man' are baffling bad too; it amounts to little more than entries on Wikipedia that have 'tank' in them.
- dtx1 5y agoI, for one, welcome our new Chinese overlords
- Hnrobert42 5y agoI hate to see this downvoted. For those who don’t get the reference: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-for-one-welcome-our-new-insect-overlords https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-for-one-welcome-our-new-ins...
- ochronus 5y agohttps://search.asynchronousexchange.com/search?q=tank%20man&categories=images&language=en-GB https://search.asynchronousexchange.com/search?q=tank%20man&...
- jameson 5y agoWhy is DDG going this to traffic coming outside of China?
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- Camillo 5y agoFor comparison: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22tank+man%22&tbm=isch https://www.google.com/search?q=%22tank+man%22&tbm=isch
- bitcurious 5y agoSpeaking as someone who's used ddg for the last three years, this is a compelling reason to switch back to google.
- ww520 5y agoWTF. Is DDG helping China in censorship?
- luke2m 5y agoNo, Bing is.
- flying_sheep 5y agoLink here: https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=tank+man&qs=ds&form=QBIR https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=tank+man&qs=ds&form=QBI...
- adventured 5y agoYes. As a consequence of relying on Bing, DDG is also assisting in the censorship. It makes them part of it. They are not required to use Bing, they choose to. It puts more emphasis on DDG's need - if their morality play is to continue to be believed - to build their own full-fledged search engine and stop relying so much on Bing & Co.'s results.
- belltaco 5y ago>It puts more emphasis on DDG's need - if their morality play is to continue to be believed - to build their own full-fledged search engine and stop relying so much on Bing & Co.'s results. Umm yes, they should just find a few billion dollars in their couch cushions to fund just the infrastructure for that.
- mssundaram 5y agoSince your other comment here [1] got flagged and dead I can't reply to it, so I am replying here. I just wanted to say thanks for sharing here on Hacker News - glad that there are those here who stand up for the truth - very much ironic (in an Alanis way) that it would be on this very thread. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27397967 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27397967
- paxys 5y agoCounting down the seconds till this gets flagged and removed like the rest
- adventured 5y agoYep. Only way this story stays on the HN homepage is if Dang specifically protects it from being flagged away.
- dang 5y agoThis story is already on the front page elsewhere: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27395635 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27395635.
- chaostheory 5y agoSame with qwant https://www.qwant.com/?t=images&q=tank+man https://www.qwant.com/?t=images&q=tank+man
- hmd_imputer 5y agoFake privacy
- kraig 5y agoI don't think thats whats going on here. This is more like highlighting that DDG is a rebranded/privacy focused Bing.
- underseacables 5y agoI got the same result as everyone else, safe search, no images, but then when I went back it had all of the articles. Something weird is happening
- bmitc 5y agoThis is probably related to Bing not showing results because, as far as I know, DuckDuckGo uses Bing as its underlying search engine. I’ve always chuckled at this from the Apple and Linux users railing against Microsoft but then they use DuckDuckGo. Interestingly, Bing shows plenty of relevant search results for their web results, including images, but doesn’t show results for an image search.
- flying_sheep 5y agoLink to Bing: https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=tank+man&qs=ds&form=QBIR https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=tank+man&qs=ds&form=QBI... This is scary because censorship is reaching to all over the world.
- belter 5y agoThat deserves a whole page in itself :-) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overseas_censorship_of_Chinese_issues https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overseas_censorship_of_Chinese... Although nowadays the bar to be shocked is quite high ..here are some remarkable examples: European Union : "The organisation agreed to censor references to the Chinese origins of the COVID-19 pandemic, with research suggesting that self-censorship on sensitive topics that may offend the PRC is commonplace." NASA: "The American space agency faced criticism in China for listing "Taiwan" as a country in a drop-down menu on a website about Mars." World Health Organization: "Senior advisor Bruce Aylward faced criticism for saying he could not hear a question from RTHK journalist Yvonne Tong about whether Taiwan could join the WHO, asking her to move onto the next question then terminating the interview when she repeated it"
- frogpelt 5y agoBut why does Bing filter this?
- bmitc 5y agoWho knows. There’s another post/thread on that I believe. My assumption or guess is that Bing operates in China and whatever filter they use there made it to the outside system by accident. But then again, it's still like that now, which is surprising.
- Panino 5y agoI've been using DDG as the default search for years and this is the first time I've been disappointed in them. DDG: don't let disappointment gain momentum because it's hard to stop.
- luke2m 5y agoDDG sources from bing, so if bing removes something, DDG won’t get it either.
- lamontcg 5y agoWhat is DDG going to be able to do about it? Never having looked into it, I always wondered how DDG could financially support indexing the web and running a search engine. Now it makes sense. Broad internet search is probably outside the ability of anything other than Fortune 100 companies today.
- josefresco 5y agoSame result at Yahoo! - no images.
- wcarss 5y agolots of image results that include "tank man", many of the photo, turn up for "tank ma", "tankman", etc. Shows clearly that it is not a lack of indexed content, but a search filter.
- dang 5y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27395635 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27395635
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