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Only the purest of the pure can lead a diversity effort. And it doesn’t count unless you were pure from the beginning. Growing to overcome past problems is not
by agentofoblivion 5y ago
Only the purest of the pure can lead a diversity effort. And it doesn’t count unless you were pure from the beginning. Growing to overcome past problems is not sufficient.
- mavsman 5y agoYa, I wonder at what point someone is accepted as having changed.
- NateEag 5y agoIt helps some if they've ever actually claimed to have changed.
- poutine 5y agoA religion without redemption.
- loveistheanswer 5y ago>Growing to overcome past problems is not sufficient. Their assumption is moreso that we cant grow to overcome past problems. So the only way to build themselves up is to tear others down. Thats why the popular "anti-racism" philosophy is so antithetical to and ignorant of the lives and philosophies of many of the greatest civil rights leaders such as Frederick Douglass, Booker T Washington, and MLK.
- pessimizer 5y ago"Their" Who are they? The people who believe racism exists?
- xg15 5y agoDo you believe racism can be overcome?
- loveistheanswer 5y agoThe people who judge and define others primarily by the color of their skin rather than the content of their character. Those who fight racism with racism and call it anti-racism or reverse-racism. Those who use hate, blame, and punishment as their tools of power, rather than love, forgiveness, and self/community empowerment. Those who focus on division rather than unity.
- flippinburgers 5y agoSome of the more vocal users on twitter in other words.
- fwip 5y agoAnti-racism doesn't say that people cannot grow.
- yakshaving_jgt 5y agoSome self-described anti-racists do indeed hold that idea[0]. [0]: https://www.ocpathink.org/post/does-race-massacre-silence-show-need-for-school-choice https://www.ocpathink.org/post/does-race-massacre-silence-sh...
- fwip 5y agoCould you point me to the paragraph in question? I've read the article a few times now, and I don't see A) anyone described as anti-racist or B) anything saying people who do racist things cannot grow.
- yakshaving_jgt 5y agoSorry! Somehow I managed to paste completely the wrong link, and now it is too late for me to edit my previous comment. I realise now that scrolling down on that website automatically loads new articles and updates the address bar. Here[0] is the article I had meant to link to. Ah man… I really feel bad that you read the wrong article a few times after I unwittingly mislead you. I'm genuinely sorry about that. [0]: https://www.ocpathink.org/post/whites-will-always-be-racist-author-says-at-tulsa-event https://www.ocpathink.org/post/whites-will-always-be-racist-...
- sverona 5y ago> Robin DiAngelo I'm going to have to start asking for better sources on antiracism than a white woman who makes a career out of corporate "diversity training." Like, of course that's her entire thesis. White fragility is a very useful concept, for sure. But the way DiAngelo uses it seems to be more focused on making white people hem and haw and feel guilty for even trying instead of doing mutual aid, reading theory, forming community, anything actually helpful or useful. If I wanted to set up a strawman, that's exactly what I'd do.
- throwkeep 5y agoIt's worse than that, only the purest of the pure can be employed. Look at Apple's recent mob firing of Antonio García Martínez. Who made the mistake of writing a best selling and critically acclaimed book just 5 years ago. Featured as one of NPR's best books of the year, recommended by NYT, Washington Post, etc. But now it's suddenly a fireable offense. “An irresistible and indispensable 360-degree guide to the new technology establishment.... A must-read.” New York Times “Incisive.... The most fun business book I have read this year.... Clearly there will be people who hate this book — which is probably one of the things that makes it such a great read.” New York Times “Reckless and rollicking... perceptive and funny and brave.... The resulting view of the Valley’s craziness, self-importance and greed isn’t pretty. But it’s one that most of us have never seen before and aren’t likely to forget.” Washington Post
- eigen 5y agoCan you provide a source for best selling? I dont see it on the NYT Fiction or NonFiction list in 2016. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_York_Times_Fiction_Best_Sellers_of_2016 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_York_Times_Fiction_Bes... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_York_Times_Nonfiction_Best_Sellers_of_2016 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_York_Times_Nonfiction_...
- throwkeep 5y agoAccording to the publisher it was an NYT bestseller: https://www.harpercollins.com/products/chaos-monkeys-antonio-garcia-martinez?variant=32207601565730 https://www.harpercollins.com/products/chaos-monkeys-antonio...
- thereare5lights 5y agoI have little doubt plenty of women didn’t want to work with someone that writes the things he writes about women.
- thelopa 5y ago“Most women in the Bay Area are soft and weak, cosseted and naive despite their claims of worldliness, and generally full of shit. They have their self-regarding entitlement feminism, and ceaselessly vaunt their independence, but the reality is, come the epidemic plague or foreign invasion, they’d become precisely the sort of useless baggage you’d trade for a box of shotgun shells or a jerry can of diesel.” “PMMess, as we’ll call her, was composed of alternating Bézier curves from top to bottom: convex, then concave, and then convex again, in a vertical undulation you couldn’t take your eyes off of. Unlike most women at Facebook (or in the Bay Area, really) she knew how to dress; forties-style, form-fitting dresses from neck to knee were her mainstay.” “Out of nowhere British Trader informs me she is once again pregnant; the calendar math takes us right back to my move- out imbroglio in December, our last tryst after a breakup desert of nonintimacy. After a brief debate, British Trader confirms her desire to keep the child, whatever my thoughts on the matter. It occurred to me that perhaps this most recent experiment in fertility—and the first—had been planned on British Trader’s part, her back up against the menopause wall, a professional woman with every means at her disposal except a willing male partner—in which case I had been snookered into fatherhood via warm smiles and pliant thighs, the oldest tricks in the book.” “To make an analogy, a capped note is like having to seduce five women one after the other, while an equity round is having to convince five women to do a sixsome with you. The latter is exponentially harder than the former.* * The women analogy breaks down in that, unlike with women, the more investors you seduce into your moresome, the more likely others are to join. This is an expression of the lemming-like nature of tech investors, most of whom scarcely merit the title.” —Antonio Garcia Martinez
- NDizzle 5y agoFor example, Obama could never lead a diversity effort. That's how pure you have to be.
- shadowgovt 5y agoI believe he currently is? At least, his foundation is. https://www.obama.org/diversity/ https://www.obama.org/diversity/
- metalliqaz 5y agoif you hang around long enough, you can watch the woke eat the woke. what is "pure" changes, and some who have delighted in getting scalps in the past will have theirs taken by someone else once the goalposts change. i'm thinking there is a decent chance trans-racialism will eventually become woke
- at_a_remove 5y agoThe sadly-deceased Mark Fisher wrote a piece called "Exiting the Vampire Castle" about at least a portion of this problem. Essentially, you gain "cred" by publicly taking down a more powerful figure than yourself. It's the problem of diablerie in Vampire: The Masquerade in that, once accepted, you create a set of rewards and initiatives that foster a constant churn of figures eager to snipe at those above them, to drain them of their woke cred and get at least a little for yourself in an act called "critique." Of course, there's only so much blood/cred to go around so figures rise and fall as these very public lives are examined for any kind of transgression: "If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him." Twitter and Tumblr are not exactly structured for careful, nuanced thought and so produce an endless stream of hot takes which, when gone cold, can be mined for evidence. And so the revolutionaries are declared counter-revolutionaries and come to be the next layer of corpses in the mass graves they have dug, Khmer Rouge style.
- fighterpilot 5y agoWhat do you mean by "trans-radicalism will eventually become woke"? EDIT misread "racialism" as "radicalism"
- polka_haunts_us 5y agoTrans-Racialism, I assume they mean ala Rachel Dolezal.
- bozzcl 5y agoAlternatively, you could just delete your social media accounts regularly to minimize your trail.
- local_dev 5y agoI find the best solution is to simply never use a social media account attached to your real identity. Innocent comments taken out of context or a general changing of accepted speech can turn a decade old bit of text into damning evidence of bigotry, racism, or any other ism.
- el-salvador 5y agoOr social media could implement automatic autodelete, like Snapchat but after a longer time.
- local_dev 5y agoThe problem with autodelete or timed content is with caching services. There are a number of sites that allow you to see deleted comments. If a social media service is large enough, I imagine the same will be created. Once something is on the internet, it is always on the internet.
- el-salvador 5y agoThat would make them like reddit :/
- smsm42 5y agoNever has been in the woke rulebook. If you work as Head of Wokeness, you live by the woke rulebook, so no complaints.