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Imagine being a Jew and suddenly finding this guy not only not-fired but on your team. I'll take hostile work environment for 1000, Alex. Thing is, I wouldn't

Imagine being a Jew and suddenly finding this guy not only not-fired but on your team. I'll take hostile work environment for 1000, Alex. Thing is, I wouldn't want to work with this person at my company period.

londons_explore 5y ago
I would. As long as he can keep his work and private lives seperate, and doesn't let these opinions infiltrate the work life, all is fine. Just like kinky sex is fine for someone at home, but a fireable offence if done in the office. If I saw him write stuff like this in an internal memo, that would be the time to fire him.
- busterarm 5y ago
  Some people are more sensitive to affected by anti-semitism than others. That's the issue.
  - londons_explore 5y ago
    Likewise, some people would feel very uncomfortable working with him if they knew he had a massive dildo collection. But no HR department will recommend firing him for the size of his dildo collection, unless of course he brings it to work...
wonderwonder 5y ago
I'm a Jew. If he apologized publicly and it was a long time ago, I think it would be ok. We have to be able to give people second chances and the ability to evolve their views. If someone was a neo nazi as a youth and grew out of it and regretted their past then they should be allowed to live a normal life. Preventing this just leads to more radicalization.
- busterarm 5y ago
  While in sentiment I agree with you, this is not being applied consistently throughout society. We are currently in an environment of maximum consequences, no tolerance afforded. Until something pulls us back from the brink, it needs to be that way consistently or more tensions will be inflamed.
  - wonderwonder 5y ago
    You are not wrong in that enforcement is definitely applied inconsistently and with extreme bias with regards to race and gender. I struggle with the correct approach to take though and if its cracking down on everyone or hoping that this at least is a crack in the door and people will realize the current trend of punishing people for decades old comments is wrong and should be stopped. Unfortunately it is likely that the rules will just continue to be unevenly enforced stoking anger and further dividing people.
SpicyLemonZest 5y ago
There’s lots of circumstances where you’ve gotta accept that your coworkers might believe offensive things. Imagine being a gay man and finding a devout Muslim on your team who wholeheartedly believes it’s wrong to be gay - if she’s willing to treat you respectfully and not bring it up at work, would you insist she be fired?
TrackerFF 5y ago
C'mon, if we go back 20 years, I'm sure A LOT of Americans wrote and said unspeakable things about middle eastern people. Same goes for a lot of Iraqi and Afghani people, after the invasion. Point is - war and conflicts brings out emotions, and people say things they necessarily don't mean under normal circumstances. What's more, people mature and change. The person you were 10-20-30-xx years ago, isn't necessarily the person you are today.

londons_explore 5y ago

I would. As long as he can keep his work and private lives seperate, and doesn't let these opinions infiltrate the work life, all is fine. Just like kinky sex is fine for someone at home, but a fireable offence if done in the office. If I saw him write stuff like this in an internal memo, that would be the time to fire him.

busterarm 5y ago
Some people are more sensitive to affected by anti-semitism than others. That's the issue.
- londons_explore 5y ago
  Likewise, some people would feel very uncomfortable working with him if they knew he had a massive dildo collection. But no HR department will recommend firing him for the size of his dildo collection, unless of course he brings it to work...

wonderwonder 5y ago

I'm a Jew. If he apologized publicly and it was a long time ago, I think it would be ok. We have to be able to give people second chances and the ability to evolve their views. If someone was a neo nazi as a youth and grew out of it and regretted their past then they should be allowed to live a normal life. Preventing this just leads to more radicalization.

busterarm 5y ago
While in sentiment I agree with you, this is not being applied consistently throughout society. We are currently in an environment of maximum consequences, no tolerance afforded. Until something pulls us back from the brink, it needs to be that way consistently or more tensions will be inflamed.
- wonderwonder 5y ago
  You are not wrong in that enforcement is definitely applied inconsistently and with extreme bias with regards to race and gender. I struggle with the correct approach to take though and if its cracking down on everyone or hoping that this at least is a crack in the door and people will realize the current trend of punishing people for decades old comments is wrong and should be stopped. Unfortunately it is likely that the rules will just continue to be unevenly enforced stoking anger and further dividing people.

SpicyLemonZest 5y ago

There’s lots of circumstances where you’ve gotta accept that your coworkers might believe offensive things. Imagine being a gay man and finding a devout Muslim on your team who wholeheartedly believes it’s wrong to be gay - if she’s willing to treat you respectfully and not bring it up at work, would you insist she be fired?

TrackerFF 5y ago

C'mon, if we go back 20 years, I'm sure A LOT of Americans wrote and said unspeakable things about middle eastern people. Same goes for a lot of Iraqi and Afghani people, after the invasion. Point is - war and conflicts brings out emotions, and people say things they necessarily don't mean under normal circumstances. What's more, people mature and change. The person you were 10-20-30-xx years ago, isn't necessarily the person you are today.