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The US is the one with widely documented concentration camps on the border. And last year showed us just how much due process is ignored and political prisoner

by lucian1900 5y ago

The US is the one with widely documented concentration camps on the border. And last year showed us just how much due process is ignored and political prisoners persecuted, if previous history wasn’t enough.

Dylan16807 5y ago
> The US is the one with widely documented concentration camps on the border. That's for people crossing in, and on average they're only in there for a couple days. The current population is around 10k people. It's a problem but it's absolutely nothing compared to putting entire groups into concentration camps. We did that once, but it sure wasn't any time recently. > And last year showed us just how much due process is ignored and political prisoners persecuted, if previous history wasn’t enough. It did?
- lucian1900 5y ago
  Entire groups aren’t in concentration camps in Xinjiang, though. The only source is Adrian Zenz, a far right Christian that doesn’t even speak Mandarin. If you’re willing to read on the topic https://www.qiaocollective.com/en/education/xinjiang https://www.qiaocollective.com/en/education/xinjiang. The US is the outlier. US forces murder and imprison innocent people all the time, both domestically (poor and black people in general, Chelsea Manning) and abroad (Assange, Guantanamo). There is no due process of any kind nor any justice. If you talk to some people living in China you’ll find out a lot about how the justice system works there.
  - cbHXBY1D 5y ago
    You're correct about Zenz. Not only is Zenz a far right Evangelical but he also has made statements that he is "guided by God" and on a "mission" against China. His work is full of cherry-picking and distorting source material and sometimes creating his own shoddy data. For example, he only interviewed 8 people to come up with the 1 million in internment camp figure. A good read: https://thegrayzone.com/2021/02/18/us-media-reports-chinese-genocide-relied-on-fraudulent-far-right-researcher/ https://thegrayzone.com/2021/02/18/us-media-reports-chinese-...

Dylan16807 5y ago

> The US is the one with widely documented concentration camps on the border. That's for people crossing in, and on average they're only in there for a couple days. The current population is around 10k people. It's a problem but it's absolutely nothing compared to putting entire groups into concentration camps. We did that once, but it sure wasn't any time recently. > And last year showed us just how much due process is ignored and political prisoners persecuted, if previous history wasn’t enough. It did?

lucian1900 5y ago
Entire groups aren’t in concentration camps in Xinjiang, though. The only source is Adrian Zenz, a far right Christian that doesn’t even speak Mandarin. If you’re willing to read on the topic https://www.qiaocollective.com/en/education/xinjiang https://www.qiaocollective.com/en/education/xinjiang. The US is the outlier. US forces murder and imprison innocent people all the time, both domestically (poor and black people in general, Chelsea Manning) and abroad (Assange, Guantanamo). There is no due process of any kind nor any justice. If you talk to some people living in China you’ll find out a lot about how the justice system works there.
- cbHXBY1D 5y ago
  You're correct about Zenz. Not only is Zenz a far right Evangelical but he also has made statements that he is "guided by God" and on a "mission" against China. His work is full of cherry-picking and distorting source material and sometimes creating his own shoddy data. For example, he only interviewed 8 people to come up with the 1 million in internment camp figure. A good read: https://thegrayzone.com/2021/02/18/us-media-reports-chinese-genocide-relied-on-fraudulent-far-right-researcher/ https://thegrayzone.com/2021/02/18/us-media-reports-chinese-...