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It's ridiculous that VW has abandoned wagons in North America. https://newsroom.vw.com/vehicles/the-golf-sportwagen-and-alltrack-close-a-five-decade-run-of-vw-

It's ridiculous that VW has abandoned wagons in North America. https://newsroom.vw.com/vehicles/the-golf-sportwagen-and-alltrack-close-a-five-decade-run-of-vw-wagons-in-america/ https://newsroom.vw.com/vehicles/the-golf-sportwagen-and-all...

HarryHirsch 5y ago
Meanwhile, the VW Passat was the go-to station wagon in Europe. They did offer a sedan model, but no one bought it.
greesil 5y ago
Hello id.4?
Klonoar 5y ago
...why is it "ridiculous"? The entire market has been heading towards SUVs/crossovers for some time; the same thing that happened to wagons is happening to sedans now.
- guyzero 5y ago
  Because they're worse than wagons in some respects (handling) and have pretty much killed everything else in the market. Given that VW is very much a platform company where the Golf wagon shares a lot of parts with the other Golf models it seems like supporting them should be possible. Who wants an automotive monoculture?
  - Klonoar 5y ago
    None of these justify a business case for selling wagons (and increasingly, sedans) to the North American market. >Who wants an automotive monoculture? Clearly, the market. And to be clear here, I outright hate SUVs/CUVs and live the sedan life.
    - jlg23 5y ago
      >> Who wants an automotive monoculture? > Clearly, the market. If all you can buy is golf pants but you want tough jeans, would you go bottomless or buy the golf pants? Cars I would buy instantly: * a car with an electric engine that goes no faster than 80mph while retaining dynamics and that does not come with a million gadgets (as in "electric engine, all else analog"). Please, also in a variant with enough space to fit me, my wife, the kid and the dog. Still, no mandatory audio-visual indoor entertainment for the dog, please. * a car optimized for DIY repairs (I live in southern Morocco, getting an OBD2-scan at my authorized Nissan dealer was $30 - or 300 small bread or 75kg of flour or 3 days of work for a cop who just started work. A friend's Porsche Cayenne needs to be towed 12h northwards just for the inspection by an authorized dealer). I don't see them on the market.
      - Klonoar 5y ago
        I am not debating the "I wish there were more options than SUVs/CUVs" point, as I ultimately _feel_ similar to you - I dislike the current market and I too wish we had more choice. We don't, though, because people are buying SUVs/CUVs.
adolph 5y ago
What was the difference between the Jetta sportwagen and a 4-door Golf? It was weird that they had two so-similar niche models.
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- argiopetech 5y ago
  VW sold the Golf Sportwagen under the Jetta name for some time in the US. They eventually changed the name to match the ROW designation before discontinuing the line in 2019.
dd444fgdfg 5y ago
you can't get the VW Passat wagon in North America? I thought those things were everywhere.
- argiopetech 5y ago
  No Passat wagon in the US. You can't even get the normal-sized Passat - since 2011 US and Chinese markets share the NMS Passat, a downscale but dramatically larger design. The Golf Sportwagen (formerly sold as the Jetta Sportwagen) was available until 2019, but is no longer.

HarryHirsch 5y ago

Meanwhile, the VW Passat was the go-to station wagon in Europe. They did offer a sedan model, but no one bought it.

greesil 5y ago

Hello id.4?

Klonoar 5y ago

...why is it "ridiculous"? The entire market has been heading towards SUVs/crossovers for some time; the same thing that happened to wagons is happening to sedans now.

guyzero 5y ago
Because they're worse than wagons in some respects (handling) and have pretty much killed everything else in the market. Given that VW is very much a platform company where the Golf wagon shares a lot of parts with the other Golf models it seems like supporting them should be possible. Who wants an automotive monoculture?
- Klonoar 5y ago
  None of these justify a business case for selling wagons (and increasingly, sedans) to the North American market. >Who wants an automotive monoculture? Clearly, the market. And to be clear here, I outright hate SUVs/CUVs and live the sedan life.
  - jlg23 5y ago
    >> Who wants an automotive monoculture? > Clearly, the market. If all you can buy is golf pants but you want tough jeans, would you go bottomless or buy the golf pants? Cars I would buy instantly: * a car with an electric engine that goes no faster than 80mph while retaining dynamics and that does not come with a million gadgets (as in "electric engine, all else analog"). Please, also in a variant with enough space to fit me, my wife, the kid and the dog. Still, no mandatory audio-visual indoor entertainment for the dog, please. * a car optimized for DIY repairs (I live in southern Morocco, getting an OBD2-scan at my authorized Nissan dealer was $30 - or 300 small bread or 75kg of flour or 3 days of work for a cop who just started work. A friend's Porsche Cayenne needs to be towed 12h northwards just for the inspection by an authorized dealer). I don't see them on the market.
    - Klonoar 5y ago
      I am not debating the "I wish there were more options than SUVs/CUVs" point, as I ultimately _feel_ similar to you - I dislike the current market and I too wish we had more choice. We don't, though, because people are buying SUVs/CUVs.

adolph 5y ago

What was the difference between the Jetta sportwagen and a 4-door Golf? It was weird that they had two so-similar niche models.

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argiopetech 5y ago
VW sold the Golf Sportwagen under the Jetta name for some time in the US. They eventually changed the name to match the ROW designation before discontinuing the line in 2019.

dd444fgdfg 5y ago

you can't get the VW Passat wagon in North America? I thought those things were everywhere.

argiopetech 5y ago
No Passat wagon in the US. You can't even get the normal-sized Passat - since 2011 US and Chinese markets share the NMS Passat, a downscale but dramatically larger design. The Golf Sportwagen (formerly sold as the Jetta Sportwagen) was available until 2019, but is no longer.