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Do you really think that attitude will allow them to maintain their dominance?

pvarangot 15y ago
I think the proper question should be "For how long do you really think that attitude will allow them to maintain their dominance?". Maybe Facebook is in the positions where playing catch-up is good enough for them in the midterm.
grandalf 15y ago
What do you think Facebook should have built/announced? Pretty much all of the really useful features are also big privacy violators, and with the uncertainty around how the public views social networking privacy, FB is smart to wait and let Google make the first move.
- nextparadigms 15y ago
  Those who don't innovate, fall behind. Who was it that said companies kill themselves, and it's not the competitors that do it?
kin 15y ago
You know logic says they won't be able to maintain their dominance but history shows that things don't always follow logically. It's going to be super interesting what plays out next.
pbhjpbhj 15y ago
IMO it won't be their tech or attitude that will bring an eventual end to their dominance but shear fashion. Trend following. If Google position themselves and look cool and capture the "cool kids" then FB will lose out to them (to some extent). FB is already getting a little taint, it's run a good innings in internet time. Whichever, G+ or FB, manages to capture the buzz of "hangouts with famous people" will probably take the current round. This to me is the iteration of one of Twitter's big wins; the chance to rub shoulders with "stars". For me, and I suspect most here, such things don't really matter. I'll stay with FB as long as most of my friends are there and it works reasonably well.
- rapind 15y ago
  This. I sent my wife the intro link for Google+ when they launched and she couldn't even be bothered to check it out. Why? Because everyone she knows is on facebook. If her friends move, then she'll move. It'll probably annoy her to have to switch too.
  - muuh-gnu 15y ago
    > If her friends move, then she'll move. And every of her friends will move if the other friends move, etc. But in reality, it is enough if only one of her friends, the most influential one moves, and then all the worker bees will follow. > Because everyone she knows is on facebook. But why is everyone on facebook in the first place? Because one of them, the group leader, the early adopter, the trend setter, decided first, then the rest passively followed. If the trend setter again decides to go G+, the effort to move off Facebook will be less then losing the queen bee, so they will follow again.
    - rapind 15y ago
      I totally agree. I'm wondering what made the group leaders adopt? Was it features? Trendy name and logo? Did it seem like the hip thing to do? Exclusivity / scarcity?
      - salemh 15y ago
        Large marketing firms dedicate resources to finding "trend setters" and "cool kids". http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=cool+kids+marketing+video#sclient=psy&hl=en&source=hp&q=cool+hunting&pbx=1&oq=cool+hunting&aq=f&aqi=g5&aql=undefined&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=486661l488023l1l12l8l0l0l0l0l500l2243l2-5.0.1.1l7&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=7c469d2a1253a36a&biw=732&bih=747 http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&#3... Older video: "Merchants of Cool" http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/cool/ http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/cool/ Or look at a Goog search "marketing trendsetters | "trend-setter" Lots of noise. The Merchants of Cool is a good relevant watch.

I think the proper question should be "For how long do you really think that attitude will allow them to maintain their dominance?". Maybe Facebook is in the positions where playing catch-up is good enough for them in the midterm.

grandalf 15y ago

What do you think Facebook should have built/announced? Pretty much all of the really useful features are also big privacy violators, and with the uncertainty around how the public views social networking privacy, FB is smart to wait and let Google make the first move.

nextparadigms 15y ago
Those who don't innovate, fall behind. Who was it that said companies kill themselves, and it's not the competitors that do it?

kin 15y ago

You know logic says they won't be able to maintain their dominance but history shows that things don't always follow logically. It's going to be super interesting what plays out next.

pbhjpbhj 15y ago

IMO it won't be their tech or attitude that will bring an eventual end to their dominance but shear fashion. Trend following. If Google position themselves and look cool and capture the "cool kids" then FB will lose out to them (to some extent). FB is already getting a little taint, it's run a good innings in internet time. Whichever, G+ or FB, manages to capture the buzz of "hangouts with famous people" will probably take the current round. This to me is the iteration of one of Twitter's big wins; the chance to rub shoulders with "stars". For me, and I suspect most here, such things don't really matter. I'll stay with FB as long as most of my friends are there and it works reasonably well.

rapind 15y ago
This. I sent my wife the intro link for Google+ when they launched and she couldn't even be bothered to check it out. Why? Because everyone she knows is on facebook. If her friends move, then she'll move. It'll probably annoy her to have to switch too.
- muuh-gnu 15y ago
  > If her friends move, then she'll move. And every of her friends will move if the other friends move, etc. But in reality, it is enough if only one of her friends, the most influential one moves, and then all the worker bees will follow. > Because everyone she knows is on facebook. But why is everyone on facebook in the first place? Because one of them, the group leader, the early adopter, the trend setter, decided first, then the rest passively followed. If the trend setter again decides to go G+, the effort to move off Facebook will be less then losing the queen bee, so they will follow again.
  - rapind 15y ago
    I totally agree. I'm wondering what made the group leaders adopt? Was it features? Trendy name and logo? Did it seem like the hip thing to do? Exclusivity / scarcity?
    - salemh 15y ago
      Large marketing firms dedicate resources to finding "trend setters" and "cool kids". http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=cool+kids+marketing+video#sclient=psy&hl=en&source=hp&q=cool+hunting&pbx=1&oq=cool+hunting&aq=f&aqi=g5&aql=undefined&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=486661l488023l1l12l8l0l0l0l0l500l2243l2-5.0.1.1l7&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=7c469d2a1253a36a&biw=732&bih=747 http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&#3... Older video: "Merchants of Cool" http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/cool/ http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/cool/ Or look at a Goog search "marketing trendsetters | "trend-setter" Lots of noise. The Merchants of Cool is a good relevant watch.