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I've always had a hard time with this because I would think we would see people horribly addicted to nicotine patches and lozenges if this were true. What makes

by qq4 5y ago

I've always had a hard time with this because I would think we would see people horribly addicted to nicotine patches and lozenges if this were true. What makes a cigarette so different?

refulgentis 5y ago
There's a ritual, an experience. There's something _to do_: I don't understand how you live your day, you just sit at the same desk in the same small apartment all day? No pause? It's like hearing someone prefers an 8 hour movie Edit: this isn't...an attack...it's a humorous attempt to gat at genuinely how I feel, as a smoker, about people who don't smoke
- qq4 5y ago
  I would argue that sucking on a lozenge is about as much of a ritual as sucking on a cigarette.
  - refulgentis 5y ago
    In my head, the lozenge is background noise whereas the cigarette means I'm outside, gotta get a jacket, mask on, bring a coffee, etc
    - kuschku 5y ago
      So why not do the coffee break outside, without the cigarette?
      - joeberon 5y ago
        Well, coffee doesn't contain nicotine
        kuschku 5y ago
        And that's where it immediately becomes obvious it's not just about going outside, or having small breaks, it's about the addiction that's so destructive that it's easier to deny it than to accept it.
        refulgentis 5y ago
        exactly, they're so deeply intertwined. when I read "oh but you could just go outside with the coffee?"...I would say out loud "why, yes...", and its genuinely a novel thought to me. Then, I silently think "but what about the cigarette?", and in that moment, I am enlightened.
- maccard 5y ago
  I totally get the ritual. The process of grinding coffee and preparing the cups, milk, filter and machine takes ~ 5 minutes or so every morning, and it's one of my favorite parts of the day. I've got a dog and live next to a park. Taking 45 minutes out of my morning and afternoon to walk her gives me more "headspace" than anything else ive tried. I guess I get my kicks elsewhere?

by qq4 5y ago

I've always had a hard time with this because I would think we would see people horribly addicted to nicotine patches and lozenges if this were true. What makes a cigarette so different?

refulgentis 5y ago

There's a ritual, an experience. There's something _to do_: I don't understand how you live your day, you just sit at the same desk in the same small apartment all day? No pause? It's like hearing someone prefers an 8 hour movie Edit: this isn't...an attack...it's a humorous attempt to gat at genuinely how I feel, as a smoker, about people who don't smoke

qq4 5y ago
I would argue that sucking on a lozenge is about as much of a ritual as sucking on a cigarette.
- refulgentis 5y ago
  In my head, the lozenge is background noise whereas the cigarette means I'm outside, gotta get a jacket, mask on, bring a coffee, etc
  - kuschku 5y ago
    So why not do the coffee break outside, without the cigarette?
    - joeberon 5y ago
      Well, coffee doesn't contain nicotine
      - kuschku 5y ago
        And that's where it immediately becomes obvious it's not just about going outside, or having small breaks, it's about the addiction that's so destructive that it's easier to deny it than to accept it.
        refulgentis 5y ago
        exactly, they're so deeply intertwined. when I read "oh but you could just go outside with the coffee?"...I would say out loud "why, yes...", and its genuinely a novel thought to me. Then, I silently think "but what about the cigarette?", and in that moment, I am enlightened.
maccard 5y ago
I totally get the ritual. The process of grinding coffee and preparing the cups, milk, filter and machine takes ~ 5 minutes or so every morning, and it's one of my favorite parts of the day. I've got a dog and live next to a park. Taking 45 minutes out of my morning and afternoon to walk her gives me more "headspace" than anything else ive tried. I guess I get my kicks elsewhere?