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Well, there is value in an upgrader that keeps everything up to date. But we didn’t get that either - at least on desktops.
by harikb 5y ago
Well, there is value in an upgrader that keeps everything up to date. But we didn’t get that either - at least on desktops.
- amelius 5y agoI don't agree. Updating is not always an improvement. Even if only the UI is affected: often you just want things to be the same.
- catlifeonmars 5y agoWhat about security updates?
- catlifeonmars 5y agoI totally agree that provided enough time and users, changing the user interface will almost always break some users experience. “Better” is subjective.
- GekkePrutser 5y agoEver used Linux? ;)
- marrs 5y agoI think we can safely assume that the answer to that question is “no” for most of the people in this thread complaining about the desktop!
- mr_toad 5y agoOn my Linux systems, both server and desktop there are a set of programs that I don’t use the package manager for, because they’re usually out of date. This includes browsers, where I let the auto updates handle it, and programming environments (Python, R, Node), where I often use their specific updaters. I don’t think it’s realistic to expect a global curated package manager to stay on top of the bleeding edge all the time.
- Meekro 5y agoThe way Linux puts the package manager front-and-center is pretty cool, but in my experience it doesn't result in a very up-to-date system. You might have a version of OpenOffice that is years out of date. Oh, you want the latest version? You need to update your Ubuntu 16.04 first, it'll say! I'm a programmer and still this makes no sense to me. Windows and Mac somehow let me use the latest OpenOffice even if I haven't updated my OS in forever.
- mixmastamyk 5y agoYou’re looking for a rolling release or something like flatpak, rather than an LTS.
- tsimionescu 5y agoSure, but why? I can easily install the latest Firefox on Windows XP most likely (or could until a few years ago), but I can't on Ubuntu 20.04 (or couldn't until Firefox started doing auto updates on Ubuntu as well)?
- pjmlp 5y agoBecause Linux folks like to bash on Windows, while in reality they live like every application would be putting their stuff into C:\Windows, like Windows used to do in the old day pre-XP. So naturally when all applications depend on the same shared libraries and configuration files, they need to be updated on a full swoop. Yeah, when one knows their way around UNIX it is possible to actually install new software that works around this, but that is exactly the problem for most desktop users, "one knows their way around UNIX".