5 ms·

Why host the project on SourceForge? Just force of habit? Other code forges don't look better enough to justify the effort of moving? Or are there actively good

Why host the project on SourceForge? Just force of habit? Other code forges don't look better enough to justify the effort of moving? Or are there actively good things about SourceForge these days?

rob74 5y ago
Are you asking the author(s) of a project that emulates a decades-old word processor so that people don't have to learn to use a newer word processor to learn to use a newer code hosting platform? I guess this project is the very embodiment of "force of habit"...
- bdcravens 5y ago
  MS-DOS 1.25 (1983) is on Github https://github.com/microsoft/MS-DOS https://github.com/microsoft/MS-DOS
  - schaefer 5y ago
    Ah, but is git on dos 1.25? Asking for a friend.
IshKebab 5y ago
There are a fair number of projects from the old days that just never bothered to move. I don't think anyone chooses to host new projects there
29athrowaway 5y ago
Was not SourceForge bundling malware with open source project releases? That was the moment when I decided to drop SourceForge forever.
- geraldbrandt 5y ago
  That changed long ago.
- tssva 5y ago
  SourceForge was sold to a new owner a few years ago. All of that type of thing ended with the new ownership.
  - user-the-name 5y ago
    You don't come back from that kind of thing that easily. Even if the current owner doesn't do that, who's to say who the owner will be tomorrow?
    - dmd 5y ago
      By that logic you can’t trust anything anywhere.
      - GekkePrutser 5y ago
        True but it is a point, and one that has lead to the emergence of decentralised open source initiatives that can never be taken over by a hostile entity. Maybe it's time for a code 'matrix' too. Especially now that github was taken over by Microsoft, prompting many projects to move away. I don't think Microsoft is a bad caretaker but something with zero commercial interest at heart is always better IMO.
      - webmaven 5y ago
        > By that logic you can’t trust anything anywhere. Well, that's just an argument for only using services that are open source, such that you could self-host, and more importantly, someone else can stand up a new (paid or otherwise) hosting service in competition with the one that has gone bad.
      - user-the-name 5y ago
        Yes, you can't, but there are lots of indicators you can use to judge how much you can trust any service. And a service that has been sold countless times and has engaged in shady behaviour in the past scores pretty badly there.
geraldbrandt 5y ago
Sourceforge is one of the few left that support Mercurial, which I use.
- chrisseaton 5y ago
  Isn't it easier to switch your version control than keep trying to run a project on SourceForge? I know I find it almost impossible to interact with a project hosted there.
  - rhabarba 5y ago
    It has become much better over the years.
  - nix23 5y ago
    >impossible to interact with a project hosted there. That's exactly the good thing, you don't have all those trolls and forced social interaction with A-holes.
- user-the-name 5y ago
  Heptapod is pretty great for mercurial hosting these days.
- gnud 5y ago
  sr.ht supports Mercurial as well. And fits well with the old-school vibe. But feel free to use SourceForge - fine by me. I just wish SF would hide unused stuff from the project page. The new UI is a ton better, but as an example, this project still has 'wiki' and 'git' links, even though they're both empty.

Why host the project on SourceForge? Just force of habit? Other code forges don't look better enough to justify the effort of moving? Or are there actively good things about SourceForge these days?

rob74 5y ago

Are you asking the author(s) of a project that emulates a decades-old word processor so that people don't have to learn to use a newer word processor to learn to use a newer code hosting platform? I guess this project is the very embodiment of "force of habit"...

bdcravens 5y ago
MS-DOS 1.25 (1983) is on Github https://github.com/microsoft/MS-DOS https://github.com/microsoft/MS-DOS
- schaefer 5y ago
  Ah, but is git on dos 1.25? Asking for a friend.

IshKebab 5y ago

There are a fair number of projects from the old days that just never bothered to move. I don't think anyone chooses to host new projects there

29athrowaway 5y ago

Was not SourceForge bundling malware with open source project releases? That was the moment when I decided to drop SourceForge forever.

geraldbrandt 5y ago
That changed long ago.
tssva 5y ago
SourceForge was sold to a new owner a few years ago. All of that type of thing ended with the new ownership.
- user-the-name 5y ago
  You don't come back from that kind of thing that easily. Even if the current owner doesn't do that, who's to say who the owner will be tomorrow?
  - dmd 5y ago
    By that logic you can’t trust anything anywhere.
    - GekkePrutser 5y ago
      True but it is a point, and one that has lead to the emergence of decentralised open source initiatives that can never be taken over by a hostile entity. Maybe it's time for a code 'matrix' too. Especially now that github was taken over by Microsoft, prompting many projects to move away. I don't think Microsoft is a bad caretaker but something with zero commercial interest at heart is always better IMO.
    - webmaven 5y ago
      > By that logic you can’t trust anything anywhere. Well, that's just an argument for only using services that are open source, such that you could self-host, and more importantly, someone else can stand up a new (paid or otherwise) hosting service in competition with the one that has gone bad.
    - user-the-name 5y ago
      Yes, you can't, but there are lots of indicators you can use to judge how much you can trust any service. And a service that has been sold countless times and has engaged in shady behaviour in the past scores pretty badly there.

geraldbrandt 5y ago

Sourceforge is one of the few left that support Mercurial, which I use.

chrisseaton 5y ago
Isn't it easier to switch your version control than keep trying to run a project on SourceForge? I know I find it almost impossible to interact with a project hosted there.
- rhabarba 5y ago
  It has become much better over the years.
- nix23 5y ago
  >impossible to interact with a project hosted there. That's exactly the good thing, you don't have all those trolls and forced social interaction with A-holes.
user-the-name 5y ago
Heptapod is pretty great for mercurial hosting these days.
gnud 5y ago
sr.ht supports Mercurial as well. And fits well with the old-school vibe. But feel free to use SourceForge - fine by me. I just wish SF would hide unused stuff from the project page. The new UI is a ton better, but as an example, this project still has 'wiki' and 'git' links, even though they're both empty.