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Jesus, was not aware ketamine treatment was this expensive. In the UK, a ketamine clinic [0] administers 0.5mg/kg, so 35mg for a 70kg person. At UK street pric

Jesus, was not aware ketamine treatment was this expensive. In the UK, a ketamine clinic [0] administers 0.5mg/kg, so 35mg for a 70kg person. At UK street prices, that’s less than £1 per dose. Presumably ketamine clinics pay less than street prices, since they don’t have to deal with the losses associated with illegal drugs. 0: https://www.oxfordhealth.nhs.uk/ketamine-service/faq/ https://www.oxfordhealth.nhs.uk/ketamine-service/faq/

dstick 5y ago
Would it be the same quality though?
- opheliate 5y ago
  That's a good point. Anecdotally, street ketamine friends have come across has appeared pretty pure under reagent testing, but that's obviously still nothing like medical quality.
  - verbify 5y ago
    Reagents generally test for presence, not purity, so all you can conclude is that there is some ketamine in there.
    - throwaway13834 5y ago
      You can get your drugs tested for free in many places (at least here in the NL). They test for purity (87% is the maximum), and also for the presence of other things like caffeine that it may have been cut with. Getting the maximum purity is not uncommon, as they basically just source it from the veterinary circuit if I remember correctly. [0] (in Dutch, under "De Markt"): https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/binaries/rijksoverheid/documenten/rapporten/2019/10/07/factsheet-over-ketamine/factsheet-over-ketamine.pdf https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/binaries/rijksoverheid/document...
      - atkailash 5y ago
        Meanwhile in the United States you ask for that and you get the cops called on you. ‘Murica
  - throwaway13834 5y ago
    As far as I know, Ketamine is hard to produce in a home-lab (more so than other recreational drugs). At least here in the NL, the Ketamine you can get on the streets basically just comes from the same factories as Ketamine that is administered to e.g. animals. Might be cut with some things, or might contain both isomers (they don't report those results if you get your drugs tested, just purity).
- krageon 5y ago
  It can be, but it depends on where you get it. Strictly speaking this is no different than generics from different manufacturers (which somehow always have big varying effects even though the apothecary likes to claim "it's all the same").
sneak 5y ago
Thus we see the profits inherent in the protectionist scheme of certain things for sale being by prescription only.
refurb 5y ago
Just like when you buy a sandwich at a restaurant you’re also paying the employees salary, rent for the building, etc, it’s the same for ketamine therapy.

dstick 5y ago

Would it be the same quality though?

opheliate 5y ago
That's a good point. Anecdotally, street ketamine friends have come across has appeared pretty pure under reagent testing, but that's obviously still nothing like medical quality.
- verbify 5y ago
  Reagents generally test for presence, not purity, so all you can conclude is that there is some ketamine in there.
  - throwaway13834 5y ago
    You can get your drugs tested for free in many places (at least here in the NL). They test for purity (87% is the maximum), and also for the presence of other things like caffeine that it may have been cut with. Getting the maximum purity is not uncommon, as they basically just source it from the veterinary circuit if I remember correctly. [0] (in Dutch, under "De Markt"): https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/binaries/rijksoverheid/documenten/rapporten/2019/10/07/factsheet-over-ketamine/factsheet-over-ketamine.pdf https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/binaries/rijksoverheid/document...
    - atkailash 5y ago
      Meanwhile in the United States you ask for that and you get the cops called on you. ‘Murica
- throwaway13834 5y ago
  As far as I know, Ketamine is hard to produce in a home-lab (more so than other recreational drugs). At least here in the NL, the Ketamine you can get on the streets basically just comes from the same factories as Ketamine that is administered to e.g. animals. Might be cut with some things, or might contain both isomers (they don't report those results if you get your drugs tested, just purity).
krageon 5y ago
It can be, but it depends on where you get it. Strictly speaking this is no different than generics from different manufacturers (which somehow always have big varying effects even though the apothecary likes to claim "it's all the same").

sneak 5y ago

Thus we see the profits inherent in the protectionist scheme of certain things for sale being by prescription only.

refurb 5y ago

Just like when you buy a sandwich at a restaurant you’re also paying the employees salary, rent for the building, etc, it’s the same for ketamine therapy.