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Down in the reddit comments it says it is not self-hosted because of limited "engineering bandwidth".

by sp332 5y ago

Aeolun 5y ago
That seems counterintuitive.
- vanous 5y ago
  As long as the server is closed source, this remains in the 'nice but do not touch' territory.
_fs 5y ago
AKA we want to lock you in to our PAAS
egeozcan 5y ago
It looks like they only open sourced the clients, not the backend. Also the phrase "ente has an open architecture and source code that has been peer reviewed" that can be found on their website follows a dark pattern: hey, look we are open but not really.
- vishnumohandas 5y ago
  Hey, I'm sorry that it came across that way. Thanks for pointing it out, I now see the lack of clarity. I've updated the copy to better reflect the situation.
  - egeozcan 5y ago
    Great, thanks for the fast reaction!
vishnumohandas 5y ago
Hey, maintaining and providing support for a server that is de-coupled from underlying external integrations (storage, payment, secrets, email, ...) is what requires bandwidth. Also, self-hosted consumer products are hard to sustain profitably. Avenues for monetization are low. Given that our long term target audience is people like my parents, we did not see enough value in investing in a self-hosted variant, and wanted to reduce the number of distractions. This is not to say that we are against the idea of a self-hosted variant, just that it is not a priority for us right now.
- gtirloni 5y ago
  The self-hosted audience is also very small. I think you made the right choice.
  - TimPC 5y ago
    For photos I’d agree as most customers are end users. Don’t underestimate this for other products though. Self hosting is a huge feature for selling into large corporations with data security policies.
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    - anaganisk 5y ago
      Why would corporations want to use google photos alternative tho? They're probably are using Gsuite or Office 365 already, both of which have photo storage options. If they're okay with their emails there, I dont think photos is an issue. So yes they made the right choice, by ignore the self hosting crowd, which is a very small crowd.

Down in the reddit comments it says it is not self-hosted because of limited "engineering bandwidth".

by sp332 5y ago

Down in the reddit comments it says it is not self-hosted because of limited "engineering bandwidth".

Aeolun 5y ago

That seems counterintuitive.

vanous 5y ago
As long as the server is closed source, this remains in the 'nice but do not touch' territory.

_fs 5y ago

AKA we want to lock you in to our PAAS

egeozcan 5y ago

It looks like they only open sourced the clients, not the backend. Also the phrase "ente has an open architecture and source code that has been peer reviewed" that can be found on their website follows a dark pattern: hey, look we are open but not really.

vishnumohandas 5y ago
Hey, I'm sorry that it came across that way. Thanks for pointing it out, I now see the lack of clarity. I've updated the copy to better reflect the situation.
- egeozcan 5y ago
  Great, thanks for the fast reaction!

vishnumohandas 5y ago

Hey, maintaining and providing support for a server that is de-coupled from underlying external integrations (storage, payment, secrets, email, ...) is what requires bandwidth. Also, self-hosted consumer products are hard to sustain profitably. Avenues for monetization are low. Given that our long term target audience is people like my parents, we did not see enough value in investing in a self-hosted variant, and wanted to reduce the number of distractions. This is not to say that we are against the idea of a self-hosted variant, just that it is not a priority for us right now.

gtirloni 5y ago
The self-hosted audience is also very small. I think you made the right choice.
- TimPC 5y ago
  For photos I’d agree as most customers are end users. Don’t underestimate this for other products though. Self hosting is a huge feature for selling into large corporations with data security policies.
  - deleted 5y ago
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  - anaganisk 5y ago
    Why would corporations want to use google photos alternative tho? They're probably are using Gsuite or Office 365 already, both of which have photo storage options. If they're okay with their emails there, I dont think photos is an issue. So yes they made the right choice, by ignore the self hosting crowd, which is a very small crowd.