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why do humans do this sort of thing?
by alex-wallish 5y ago
why do humans do this sort of thing?
- mrb 5y agoMoney.
- sergiotapia 5y agoblame drug addicted garbage that keep shoving that shit up their noses.
- happytoexplain 5y agoNot the murderers? Seems like your opinion is biased by hatred.
- gftttgggfffddd 5y agoI think drug users should be called out for supporting this violent industry similar to how drunk drivers, sexual harassers, and racists are social pariahs
- boterock 5y agoThe problem is more that people don't know all the problems that are causing when buying cocaine. In the end, if they're doing it at home without harming anyone, what's the issue? I would relate it more to how people eating meat are contributing to global warming without realizing it.
- the_only_law 5y agoOf course the standard exclusion will apply if you’re rich and powerful.
- spankyspangler 5y agoHorrible victim blaming. Only under neoleftism could addicted victims of these violent destructive drug pushing cartels be considered to be supporters of the cartels, and not the cartels or the people or governments of the countries they flourish under.
- jes 5y agoDrug addicted individuals are not garbage. They are human beings. I see them as worthy of compassion and a sincere helping hand, however it can be given.
- throw7 5y agoWould you take a life if one was taken from you?
- TimTheTinker 5y agoAn equivalent question is: why does human evil exist? Your answer will depend on your worldview -- your beliefs on matters like origin, meaning, morality, and destiny. If you're not sure, I'd suggest evaluating candidate worldviews with an eye toward comparing the extent to which their propositions correspond to reality and are internally consistent.
- edgyquant 5y agoIt’s not evil. These people don’t go to bed at night thinking they are the villain. The real answer is more depressing: people have to eat. These police are part of a system that is threatening the livelihood of cartels and with the exception of a few people at the top this livelihood is what feeds theirs families.
- iammisc 5y agoWhat? You can definitely find jobs to eat in Mexico. This is the silliest take. It's not like the villages suddenly don't have land to grow food on
- edgyquant 5y agoI mean, I didn’t say you couldn’t. But that doesn’t change the fact that cartels are businesses and the reason for these terrible things aren’t because the people are evil but because it’s their livelihood. I’d also wager that working for a cartel pays a lot better than working on a farm in Mexico. It also isn’t a “take.” When you start throwing around words like evil you are demonizing the enemy which you should never do.
- TimTheTinker 5y agoIt's not so much demonizing someone as calling a spade a spade. These cartels are built on an explicit disregard of ethics and human rights. People in these organizations are encouraged to commit bloodshed against innocent people. To say that's not evil is a grave ethical miscategorization -- and those who fail to label evil accurately can't help stop its progression.
- smabie 5y agoBecause that's who we are.
- qPM9l3XJrF 5y agoPart of what's going on in Mexico is that the cartels have spread romanticized images of themselves to the point where many Mexican youngsters actually aspire to cartel life. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcocorrido https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcocorrido
- Buge 5y agoMusic promoting crime and kids aspiring to that life isn't a purely Cartel thing unfortunately. Gangster rap and drill music often promote crime.
- edgyquant 5y agoIndeed when El Chapo was arrested there were loads of memes going viral about how good he was to the poor. I do believe this is somewhat factual (not El Chapo but drug lords in general) but they tend to be equally or even more cruel to those who don’t bow to their whims.
- qPM9l3XJrF 5y agoI would guess this reputation is based on a few high-profile charity cases optimized for maximum PR impact.
- hellbannedguy 5y agoThey are setting up legitimate business, and hiring whole towns. I can see why certain people turn their heads. There's part of me that went numb to other countries problems. America needs to help itself. I'm seeing more desperate, disenfranchised Americans than ever.
- asdff 5y agoFor some young people their only role models are terrible people who take advantage of their trust and get them into this life. It's a big issue in the U.S. too.
- ceilingcorner 5y agoWe didn’t become the dominant species on earth by playing nice with others.
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- jonnycomputer 5y agono, we became the dominant species on earth by playing nice with each other. though that kind of thing usually plays along in-group/out-group boundaries.
- oh_sigh 5y agoIf someone punches you in the nose, you(or someone you love) might want to punch them in the nose twice. Repeat x 100000000
- ilaksh 5y agoI think it comes down to economics. Countries are not islands. Poor countries and poor neighborhoods create a situation where people legitimatize criminal gangs. Many men may see that as the only way to gain any power. In a country with more money, more opportunities and a vietual police and military monopoly on force the situation is different. We have many, many prisons in America. But think about what it was like in the prohibition era. I would argue that the biggest difference was actually economic.
- edgyquant 5y agoNot even just power, I grew up in a fairly poor neighborhood (in the US) and most of my friends were pretty poor. The guys who sold weed or harder drugs had a lot more money to spend than those who worked legitimate jobs as teenagers. When you’re given the option of working a job that doesn’t respect you and then going to college so you can make a few thousand a month seven years from now or selling drugs and getting that plus respect now it isn’t hard to see why people choose the latter. And that’s in the US in the developing world the choice is more be poor and maybe work in agriculture, take a chance and moving far away and maybe finding a decent job or getting into a gang where you can take care of your family now.
- pjerem 5y agoHumans do this when they are extremely poor and must survive poverty by themselves and then, an organization (criminal, by the way) starts to take care of them. Care is materialized by revenue here, but imho, what is important is that those organizations won by giving those people a future the government failed to provide.