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To be fair... there was _a lot_ of heavy-duty crap back that was badly designed, poisonous/polluting or novely. It's just that you don't see it now because it's

To be fair... there was _a lot_ of heavy-duty crap back that was badly designed, poisonous/polluting or novely. It's just that you don't see it now because it's all rusted away or lives in junkyards.

hn_throwaway_99 5y ago
At the same time, there is other stuff that is good quality but that could never be produced today because of liability concerns, but if you're in a home without small children running around you're probably good. I'm the proud owner of a La Peppina espresso machine (image: https://www.home-barista.com/levers/my-first-lever-la-peppina-t35257.html https://www.home-barista.com/levers/my-first-lever-la-peppin...). It makes great espresso, but it also keeps a kettle of boiling water suspended on a relatively small pedestal where you push down on the lever next to it. I'm glad I own one because something like it will never be produced again.
- dredmorbius 5y ago
  I'm not seeing the image there. This? https://i.pinimg.com/originals/79/82/72/79827236408416d55d8f20a3665f5501.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/originals/79/82/72/79827236408416d55d8f...
  - CRConrad 5y ago
    The lines of the one in your picture are a bit softer, rounder, where those of the one in the GP's link are a bit more squared off. I'm guessing same basic model, but yours a few years older and theirs younger; yours before and theirs after the mid-model-life facelift.
- Daishiman 5y ago
  I'm not really seeing the point here. Lever espresso machines exist and continue to be manufactured. La Pavoni and Olympia continue to make lever espresso machines that work just fine. A lot of the reliability concerns from tools of the past are frankly quite well justified, and to this date we continue to sell and produce tools that are dangerous if not properly operated.
  - hn_throwaway_99 5y ago
    Older machines, like La Peppina and Caravel, are open boiler machines, meaning the boiler is not pressurized. The way the water flows means they have excellent temperature stability for espresso (the boiler is of course at 100C, so the brew temp is right around 95C). Of course, an open boiler means there are a lot more potential safety issues.

To be fair... there was _a lot_ of heavy-duty crap back that was badly designed, poisonous/polluting or novely. It's just that you don't see it now because it's all rusted away or lives in junkyards.

hn_throwaway_99 5y ago

At the same time, there is other stuff that is good quality but that could never be produced today because of liability concerns, but if you're in a home without small children running around you're probably good. I'm the proud owner of a La Peppina espresso machine (image: https://www.home-barista.com/levers/my-first-lever-la-peppina-t35257.html https://www.home-barista.com/levers/my-first-lever-la-peppin...). It makes great espresso, but it also keeps a kettle of boiling water suspended on a relatively small pedestal where you push down on the lever next to it. I'm glad I own one because something like it will never be produced again.

dredmorbius 5y ago
I'm not seeing the image there. This? https://i.pinimg.com/originals/79/82/72/79827236408416d55d8f20a3665f5501.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/originals/79/82/72/79827236408416d55d8f...
- CRConrad 5y ago
  The lines of the one in your picture are a bit softer, rounder, where those of the one in the GP's link are a bit more squared off. I'm guessing same basic model, but yours a few years older and theirs younger; yours before and theirs after the mid-model-life facelift.
Daishiman 5y ago
I'm not really seeing the point here. Lever espresso machines exist and continue to be manufactured. La Pavoni and Olympia continue to make lever espresso machines that work just fine. A lot of the reliability concerns from tools of the past are frankly quite well justified, and to this date we continue to sell and produce tools that are dangerous if not properly operated.
- hn_throwaway_99 5y ago
  Older machines, like La Peppina and Caravel, are open boiler machines, meaning the boiler is not pressurized. The way the water flows means they have excellent temperature stability for espresso (the boiler is of course at 100C, so the brew temp is right around 95C). Of course, an open boiler means there are a lot more potential safety issues.