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>The problem was that during the Clinton administration, it was assumed that China would become more "democratic" and open politically, as their economic advanc
by simion314 5y ago
>The problem was that during the Clinton administration, it was assumed that China would become more "democratic" and open politically, as their economic advancement progressed. It was assumed that their people would slowly change the CCP as they became wealthier - turning them more and more western
And what is the plan/assumption for Saudi Arabia? Is there an assumption that they will soon start respecting human rights?
- seanmcdirmid 5y agoThe assumption is that the world will move on to EVs soon enough and we can wash our hands of the KSA completely.
- simion314 5y agoAnd what about human rights and who what if when oil runs out some extremists ideas will popup ? When things go bad the people will try to find someone to blame and there might be a risk that extremist ideas will grow.
- seanmcdirmid 5y agoThe Middle East has always been like that, nothing new. The extremists already exist in Saudi Arabia, a lot of the human rights violations are simply authoritarian actions to suppress extremists. It has really been a mess, what good could the USA or Europe accomplish? Getting involved just means more mistakes, probably more bad than good as it is now.
- simion314 5y agoI am also against military or some other government interference with local politics, I am disgusted by politicians, companies and people that would use hman rights complaints selectively and close their eyes when there is a lot of money involved.
- seanmcdirmid 5y agoSure. We as a country will always apply our military where are interests are at stake, there is no action taken just for human rights. It isn’t just the politicians, it’s the people who elect them that ultimately feel that way, the politicians are just acting this way so they don’t get unelected. On the bright side, acting in self interest means we shouldn’t get involved in any messes either, and supporting intrinsically unstable authoritarian governments doesn’t make much sense either. There is definitely some overlap between doing the right thing and dong the thing that serves your interests the most.
- Paradigma11 5y agoThe assumption is that there is no hope for SA and everybody is playing the game till the oil runs out.
- simion314 5y agoAnd when oil runs out do the rest of the world remember about human rights and we at least not minimize the abuses that happen? Do the prediction tell if there will be internal struggles when the oil ends and who will end up on top? What if some more extremist leader/group gets the power?1
- Paradigma11 5y agoWhen the oil runs out SA will settle into similar importance as neighbouring Yemen or Sudan and ppl will give similar care.