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Can you provide some evidence that this happened now, or for earlier diseases? Manaus in Brazil doesn't count, FTR. It never ever reached herd immunity: the da

• camgunz 5y ago
  I think my evidence is that there are variants. Isn't the way variants work: - A human gets infected - The human becomes a virus factory - While producing gazillions of viruses, mutations occur - Mutations are variants
  • beagle3 5y ago
    The most prolific by far variant factories are apparently immunocompromised individuals, including those vaccinated - which harbor infection for months and a weak immune system - which lets the virus optimize against weak humans, in the same way the traditional vaccines lets the immune system optimize against a weak virus. (From memory, don’t have a link handy)
    • camgunz 5y ago
      Yeah I mean, we're (presumably) both doing some armchair virology, but I buy that if you're immunocompromised that you can't fight off the virus, and thus the virus succeeds in turning you into a virus factory until you die. That said, I don't think that's an argument against non-immunocompromised people getting vaccinated. It's like me saying "don't touch the toaster if it were just on, you'll get burned" and you responding "yeah but ovens really burn you." OK well, be careful around both I guess.
      • kokx 5y ago
        It is a great argument that non-immunocompromised people should get vaccinated. If non-immunocompromised people are vaccinated, the probability that immunocompromised people get infected gets smaller, thus causing less variants.