5 ms·

From what I understand they are transitioning from radar do vision only. The problem was that software engineers missed the deadline. They will provide that in

by takeda 5y ago

From what I understand they are transitioning from radar do vision only. The problem was that software engineers missed the deadline. They will provide that in a software update, it will be just a period of time for new Teslas where the feature is not available. There's no point to wait, since you will eventually get it in update, and if you want the radar you will have to buy used model. Personally I don't believe vision can replace radar in 100%. In a bad weather vision will be inferior. The argument could be that drivers also only use vision, but other cars do come with radars to supplement driver's vision.

GoOnThenDoTell 5y ago
Seems odd to buy a not-finished car
HighPlainsDrftr 5y ago
I've been wondering about this myself. I drive in bad weather all the time. Sometimes its blowing snow, sometimes its because the DOT can't keep the road clear. I often can't see the white strip - or even the yellow strip on the road and have to gauge where I'm at by finding reflector poles. Two lanes will turn down to one, and back to two really quickly (snow removal). Toss in 60-80MPH wind gusts, and it really is a test. Add in wild critters, inexperienced drivers, impatient drivers, and it can be a bit insane.
bengale 5y ago
> The argument could be that drivers also only use vision, but other cars do come with radars to supplement driver's vision. I don’t buy this argument at all, a lot of drivers are absolutely terrible. I think we should be making automated vehicles better than humans.
- takeda 5y ago
  You've been drinking kool aid, because right now self driving cars are much worse than humans. Maybe in future, but we are not there yet. We are discussing about he change happening right now.
  - bengale 5y ago
    But these cars aren't disposable, the whole point is that they are upgradable via software, is it not? These self driving cars will hopefully improve, but limiting them because 'humans don't use radar' seems short sighted. Perhaps we would be better drivers if we'd evolved with some sort of radar. Also I'm not sure to which koolaid you refer, but if its the Tesla one you should probably know I'm extremely sceptical of their claims and have no intention of owning one.

by takeda 5y ago

GoOnThenDoTell 5y ago

Seems odd to buy a not-finished car

HighPlainsDrftr 5y ago

I've been wondering about this myself. I drive in bad weather all the time. Sometimes its blowing snow, sometimes its because the DOT can't keep the road clear. I often can't see the white strip - or even the yellow strip on the road and have to gauge where I'm at by finding reflector poles. Two lanes will turn down to one, and back to two really quickly (snow removal). Toss in 60-80MPH wind gusts, and it really is a test. Add in wild critters, inexperienced drivers, impatient drivers, and it can be a bit insane.

bengale 5y ago

> The argument could be that drivers also only use vision, but other cars do come with radars to supplement driver's vision. I don’t buy this argument at all, a lot of drivers are absolutely terrible. I think we should be making automated vehicles better than humans.

takeda 5y ago
You've been drinking kool aid, because right now self driving cars are much worse than humans. Maybe in future, but we are not there yet. We are discussing about he change happening right now.
- bengale 5y ago
  But these cars aren't disposable, the whole point is that they are upgradable via software, is it not? These self driving cars will hopefully improve, but limiting them because 'humans don't use radar' seems short sighted. Perhaps we would be better drivers if we'd evolved with some sort of radar. Also I'm not sure to which koolaid you refer, but if its the Tesla one you should probably know I'm extremely sceptical of their claims and have no intention of owning one.