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Problems with homeless is deeper than finding a place to sleep. For example, some homeless people voluntarily choose to sleep on the street even when they have

Problems with homeless is deeper than finding a place to sleep. For example, some homeless people voluntarily choose to sleep on the street even when they have homes (like one man I knew who refused to go home after his wife death after many years of struggling with cancer). Some people would destroy that property that would be given to them, and will be thrown out by the building administration. Homelessness is partially mental health problem, it cannot be solved just by handing out free apartments.

LambdaComplex 5y ago
If we get to the point where the government is actually trying to solve homelessness by giving people homes, then I'd be kinda optimistic about mental health getting taken seriously too. (More optimistic than I am now, at least)
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paulcole 5y ago
How much of this comment is based on data and how much is you extrapolating from a single person you know? This article seems to suggest that giving out access to housing is in fact effective: https://www.vox.com/2014/5/30/5764096/homeless-shelter-housing-help-solutions https://www.vox.com/2014/5/30/5764096/homeless-shelter-housi...
- lightgreen 5y ago
  I'm extrapolating it from various personal encounters, but I have no data. Vox doesn't have data either. They are stating that government spends money very inefficiently at homeless and assumes it would be more efficient to hand out homes. This is wrong because: * government will hand out homes also very inefficiently * handing out homes might be cheaper than policing homeless people, but it does not guarantee that it fixes homeless problem for reasons I described and for other reasons (like some people might consider declaring themselves homeless to get free apartments) I'm not saying Vox is wrong, I'm just saying that Vox is correctly writing about different aspect of the issue, but does not explain how to solve homelessness.
  - paulcole 5y ago
    > I have no data. This is my surprised face lol.
imtringued 5y ago
If all homeless people were like that then the world would be a much better place, because there would be less of them.

LambdaComplex 5y ago

If we get to the point where the government is actually trying to solve homelessness by giving people homes, then I'd be kinda optimistic about mental health getting taken seriously too. (More optimistic than I am now, at least)

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paulcole 5y ago

How much of this comment is based on data and how much is you extrapolating from a single person you know? This article seems to suggest that giving out access to housing is in fact effective: https://www.vox.com/2014/5/30/5764096/homeless-shelter-housing-help-solutions https://www.vox.com/2014/5/30/5764096/homeless-shelter-housi...

lightgreen 5y ago
I'm extrapolating it from various personal encounters, but I have no data. Vox doesn't have data either. They are stating that government spends money very inefficiently at homeless and assumes it would be more efficient to hand out homes. This is wrong because: * government will hand out homes also very inefficiently * handing out homes might be cheaper than policing homeless people, but it does not guarantee that it fixes homeless problem for reasons I described and for other reasons (like some people might consider declaring themselves homeless to get free apartments) I'm not saying Vox is wrong, I'm just saying that Vox is correctly writing about different aspect of the issue, but does not explain how to solve homelessness.
- paulcole 5y ago
  > I have no data. This is my surprised face lol.

imtringued 5y ago

If all homeless people were like that then the world would be a much better place, because there would be less of them.