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Monthly rent for a furnished apartment at my university (i.e. already overpriced and in demand) is $1049. Why not buy these people a ticket and a year's prepai

Monthly rent for a furnished apartment at my university (i.e. already overpriced and in demand) is $1049. Why not buy these people a ticket and a year's prepaid rent to somewhere with a much, much cheaper cost of living. It would save the city money and these people would have a real place to live (i.e. not homeless anymore, instead of homeless in a tent).

lightgreen 5y ago
Problems with homeless is deeper than finding a place to sleep. For example, some homeless people voluntarily choose to sleep on the street even when they have homes (like one man I knew who refused to go home after his wife death after many years of struggling with cancer). Some people would destroy that property that would be given to them, and will be thrown out by the building administration. Homelessness is partially mental health problem, it cannot be solved just by handing out free apartments.
- LambdaComplex 5y ago
  If we get to the point where the government is actually trying to solve homelessness by giving people homes, then I'd be kinda optimistic about mental health getting taken seriously too. (More optimistic than I am now, at least)
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- paulcole 5y ago
  How much of this comment is based on data and how much is you extrapolating from a single person you know? This article seems to suggest that giving out access to housing is in fact effective: https://www.vox.com/2014/5/30/5764096/homeless-shelter-housing-help-solutions https://www.vox.com/2014/5/30/5764096/homeless-shelter-housi...
  - lightgreen 5y ago
    I'm extrapolating it from various personal encounters, but I have no data. Vox doesn't have data either. They are stating that government spends money very inefficiently at homeless and assumes it would be more efficient to hand out homes. This is wrong because: * government will hand out homes also very inefficiently * handing out homes might be cheaper than policing homeless people, but it does not guarantee that it fixes homeless problem for reasons I described and for other reasons (like some people might consider declaring themselves homeless to get free apartments) I'm not saying Vox is wrong, I'm just saying that Vox is correctly writing about different aspect of the issue, but does not explain how to solve homelessness.
    - paulcole 5y ago
      > I have no data. This is my surprised face lol.
- imtringued 5y ago
  If all homeless people were like that then the world would be a much better place, because there would be less of them.
BayAreaEscapee 5y ago
States have a unfavorable opinion of having another state's homeless population shipped to them. I'm aware that Nevada been sued several times by California cities for busing their homeless one-way to California.
ffggvv 5y ago
a lot of these people specifically come to california because they want to live on the street and do drugd and visit the beach and enjoy it. i’ve seen many of them admit it. losers in iowa or some random state where they could easily get an apartment for 500 bucks a month or live with parents but would rather move to california and not have a job
darkhorse22 5y ago
You had to apply and be accepted to the university, and their confidence that you won't turn your apartment into a crack den is factored into the monthly rent.
imtringued 5y ago
Also, send them to community college for the duration of the program.

lightgreen 5y ago

Problems with homeless is deeper than finding a place to sleep. For example, some homeless people voluntarily choose to sleep on the street even when they have homes (like one man I knew who refused to go home after his wife death after many years of struggling with cancer). Some people would destroy that property that would be given to them, and will be thrown out by the building administration. Homelessness is partially mental health problem, it cannot be solved just by handing out free apartments.

LambdaComplex 5y ago
If we get to the point where the government is actually trying to solve homelessness by giving people homes, then I'd be kinda optimistic about mental health getting taken seriously too. (More optimistic than I am now, at least)
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paulcole 5y ago
How much of this comment is based on data and how much is you extrapolating from a single person you know? This article seems to suggest that giving out access to housing is in fact effective: https://www.vox.com/2014/5/30/5764096/homeless-shelter-housing-help-solutions https://www.vox.com/2014/5/30/5764096/homeless-shelter-housi...
- lightgreen 5y ago
  I'm extrapolating it from various personal encounters, but I have no data. Vox doesn't have data either. They are stating that government spends money very inefficiently at homeless and assumes it would be more efficient to hand out homes. This is wrong because: * government will hand out homes also very inefficiently * handing out homes might be cheaper than policing homeless people, but it does not guarantee that it fixes homeless problem for reasons I described and for other reasons (like some people might consider declaring themselves homeless to get free apartments) I'm not saying Vox is wrong, I'm just saying that Vox is correctly writing about different aspect of the issue, but does not explain how to solve homelessness.
  - paulcole 5y ago
    > I have no data. This is my surprised face lol.
imtringued 5y ago
If all homeless people were like that then the world would be a much better place, because there would be less of them.

BayAreaEscapee 5y ago

States have a unfavorable opinion of having another state's homeless population shipped to them. I'm aware that Nevada been sued several times by California cities for busing their homeless one-way to California.

ffggvv 5y ago

a lot of these people specifically come to california because they want to live on the street and do drugd and visit the beach and enjoy it. i’ve seen many of them admit it. losers in iowa or some random state where they could easily get an apartment for 500 bucks a month or live with parents but would rather move to california and not have a job

darkhorse22 5y ago

You had to apply and be accepted to the university, and their confidence that you won't turn your apartment into a crack den is factored into the monthly rent.

imtringued 5y ago

Also, send them to community college for the duration of the program.