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The noteworthy (IMO, obviously) communities/projects that I have seen jump ship (either voluntarily or by force) are wikimedia & wikimedia, ubuntu, gentoo, cent

The noteworthy (IMO, obviously) communities/projects that I have seen jump ship (either voluntarily or by force) are wikimedia & wikimedia, ubuntu, gentoo, centos, kde, postgres, sourcehut, wesnoth, mutt, vim, emacs, lisp, scheme, clojure, haskell. Any other ones that I haven't seen yet?

wut42 5y ago
Alpine (to oftc), voidlinux, grafana, prometheus, fosdem, curl, bastillebsd, couchdb, musl, ircpuzzles, jellyfin, gamingonlinux, xen, devuan, irssi, weechat, …. The list is too big to get it exhaustively
eclipseo76 5y ago
Fedora is planning too, but it's colliding with our project of having our own Matrix server bridged with IRC.
- ognarb 5y ago
  Same with KDE, but the Matrix wnd Libera team are working on it.
3np 5y ago
apart from what sibling mentioned: armbian, xmonad
Semaphor 5y ago
Archlinux: https://archlinux.org/news/move-of-official-irc-channels-to-liberachat/ https://archlinux.org/news/move-of-official-irc-channels-to-...
geocar 5y ago
ecl moved.
- phoe-krk 5y ago
  So did #clasp - forcibly.
  - Dah00n 5y ago
    Forcibly how?
    - phoe-krk 5y ago
      All operators and bans were removed and the channel was forcibly redirected to ##clasp. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27289071 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27289071
    - wut42 5y ago
      freenode staff took over en masse all channels who mentioned "libera" in their topic. It's been discussed all over HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27286628 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27286628 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27285774 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27285774 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27285802 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27285802 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27287283 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27287283 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27287750 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27287750 (gentoo) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27287807 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27287807 (raku) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27288673 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27288673 (elixir) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27288771 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27288771 (alegro)
      - Dah00n 5y ago
        I don't know how I missed that...
  - adenner 5y ago
    The same thing happened with our local linux user's group #cialug
- jackdaniel 5y ago
  Both #ecl and #clim moved, yes.
_Gyan_ 5y ago
FFmpeg already has registered channels there. Will update website within a day.
spindle 5y ago
NixOS
- Filligree 5y ago
  Moved to Matrix, but there are active IRC channels on Libera as well.
  - tazjin 5y ago
    The move to Matrix was not a community decision, which is why it's now fractured slightly between the different systems. Maybe someone will bridge them in the future.
    - e3bc54b2 5y ago
      I'm seeing plenty of Nix/OS/pkgs IRC regulars and seniors in matrix rooms, and lots of active discussion going on. There is demand and mourning for IRC bridges, and I'm sure that will be taken care of sometime soon, but to me it seems Matrix is the new home.
  - aitchnyu 5y ago
    I thought Matrix group sizes are limited to 1024 members. I can't google if this limit still exists.
    - kadoban 5y ago
      If a "group" is a room, then this is definitely not currently true. I'm in Matrix rooms well over this size.
    - ptman 5y ago
      There are no hard limit on matrix room member counts. e2e encrypted rooms with thousands of users se a lot of key negotiation traffic, but with such sizes maybe full encryption doesn't buy much as any user can share the log/history.
dudul 5y ago
Elixir apparently based on another HN front page post
bregma 5y ago
Python
spacemanmatt 5y ago
openscad, spritely, elixir
Kliment 5y ago
kicad, implicitcad, reprap, scopehal
betawaffle 5y ago
also zig and go-nuts
asicsp 5y ago
#lobsters
chishaku 5y ago
Is irc the primary means of communication for all these projects?
- bierjunge 5y ago
  IRC and mailing lists are still the most important communication channels for a lot of projects (see: kernel.org and similar projects). It haven't changed for 30+ years and I hope it won't change in the future.
- myself248 5y ago
  Not sure I'd call it primary for all of them, but it's been a supremely useful, and speedy, support resource whenever I've needed it. Being able to just blindly /join #name_of_project and land somewhere useful (even if unofficial) is like magic.
purerandomness 5y ago
bootstrap
drmpeg 5y ago
gnuradio. We also got hijacked.
asddubs 5y ago
rsync too i believe
est31 5y ago
3.2k commits as of now: https://github.com/search?p=6&q=libera&type=Commits https://github.com/search?p=6&q=libera&type=Commits
- app4soft 5y ago
  > 3.2k commits as of now: https://github.com/search?p=6&q=libera&type=Commits https://github.com/search?p=6&q=libera&type=Commits Not all "libera" commits on GitHub related to "Libera Chat" There are 470 commits for "libera chat"/"libera.chat"[0,1] [0] https://github.com/search?q=libera+chat&type=Commits https://github.com/search?q=libera+chat&type=Commits [1] https://github.com/search?q=libera.chat&type=Commits https://github.com/search?q=libera.chat&type=Commits
  - est31 5y ago
    Indeed but note that if you search for "libera chat" or "libera.chat" (I think they are equivalent, github's search doesn't recognize punctuation I think), it filters out the commits that don't mention both "libera" "chat" in the commit message, and only turns up those that do. In particular, github's commit search does not search diffs, only commit messages, so even if the diff contains libera.chat, it won't turn up until the commit message also mentions it.
dsr_ 5y ago
lopsa - the League of Professional SysAdmins.
MadVikingGod 5y ago
It might be easier to start a list of channels that didn't move.
capableweb 5y ago
> clojure While there is a #clojure on both Freenode and Libera, it's not official as far as I know. Also, https://clojure.org/community/resources https://clojure.org/community/resources still links to the Freenode channel. Most of the Clojure community hangs around on Zulip and Slack (Clojurians) more than IRC anyways.
- shakna 5y ago
  The Freenode channel says it has moved: > ChanServ: This channel is moving to #clojure on irc.libera.chat
Grinnz 5y ago
Perl
gwillen 5y ago
The Bitcoin community has moved / is moving to Libera; I think #bitcoin was the second-largest freenode channel, after #ubuntu.
that_guy_iain 5y ago
Looking at https://freenode.net/static/img/wikimedia-forced-move.png https://freenode.net/static/img/wikimedia-forced-move.png the forced part is by people on the projects. Honestly, that sort of stuff is the main reason I stopped using IRC. I can completely believe that someone decided to do that and it shows contempt for the community it says they want to have. It's easy to say the community moved when you kick and ban everyone from a channel and create a new channel on a different network. But how many people actually moved? Did they just damage their own community over this?
- zmatt 5y ago
  While it perhaps seems a bit heavy-handed, it's an easy way to ensure people notice the channel has moved, even if they haven't been following the news, and thus minimize damage to your community. I don't see how this action is "contempt for the community". "How many people actually moved?" .. I'd presume everyone who wants to be in that channel and who has noticed that it has moved. Why would they not? Also note that this example seems to be the exception, many channels that got hijacked merely mentioned the move in topic or even just mentioned libera in topic without any decision to move being finalized (though the hijackings did a great job at finalizing those decisions ;)
Ccecil 5y ago
#reprap, #smoothieware and #kicad are all on Libera now edit: I see kliment beat me to it on 2 of those :)

wut42 5y ago

Alpine (to oftc), voidlinux, grafana, prometheus, fosdem, curl, bastillebsd, couchdb, musl, ircpuzzles, jellyfin, gamingonlinux, xen, devuan, irssi, weechat, …. The list is too big to get it exhaustively

eclipseo76 5y ago

Fedora is planning too, but it's colliding with our project of having our own Matrix server bridged with IRC.

ognarb 5y ago
Same with KDE, but the Matrix wnd Libera team are working on it.

3np 5y ago

apart from what sibling mentioned: armbian, xmonad

Semaphor 5y ago

Archlinux: https://archlinux.org/news/move-of-official-irc-channels-to-liberachat/ https://archlinux.org/news/move-of-official-irc-channels-to-...

geocar 5y ago

ecl moved.

phoe-krk 5y ago
So did #clasp - forcibly.
- Dah00n 5y ago
  Forcibly how?
  - phoe-krk 5y ago
    All operators and bans were removed and the channel was forcibly redirected to ##clasp. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27289071 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27289071
  - wut42 5y ago
    freenode staff took over en masse all channels who mentioned "libera" in their topic. It's been discussed all over HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27286628 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27286628 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27285774 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27285774 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27285802 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27285802 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27287283 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27287283 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27287750 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27287750 (gentoo) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27287807 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27287807 (raku) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27288673 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27288673 (elixir) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27288771 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27288771 (alegro)
    - Dah00n 5y ago
      I don't know how I missed that...
- adenner 5y ago
  The same thing happened with our local linux user's group #cialug
jackdaniel 5y ago
Both #ecl and #clim moved, yes.

_Gyan_ 5y ago

FFmpeg already has registered channels there. Will update website within a day.

spindle 5y ago

NixOS

Filligree 5y ago
Moved to Matrix, but there are active IRC channels on Libera as well.
- tazjin 5y ago
  The move to Matrix was not a community decision, which is why it's now fractured slightly between the different systems. Maybe someone will bridge them in the future.
  - e3bc54b2 5y ago
    I'm seeing plenty of Nix/OS/pkgs IRC regulars and seniors in matrix rooms, and lots of active discussion going on. There is demand and mourning for IRC bridges, and I'm sure that will be taken care of sometime soon, but to me it seems Matrix is the new home.
- aitchnyu 5y ago
  I thought Matrix group sizes are limited to 1024 members. I can't google if this limit still exists.
  - kadoban 5y ago
    If a "group" is a room, then this is definitely not currently true. I'm in Matrix rooms well over this size.
  - ptman 5y ago
    There are no hard limit on matrix room member counts. e2e encrypted rooms with thousands of users se a lot of key negotiation traffic, but with such sizes maybe full encryption doesn't buy much as any user can share the log/history.

dudul 5y ago

Elixir apparently based on another HN front page post

bregma 5y ago

Python

spacemanmatt 5y ago

openscad, spritely, elixir

Kliment 5y ago

kicad, implicitcad, reprap, scopehal

betawaffle 5y ago

also zig and go-nuts

asicsp 5y ago

#lobsters

chishaku 5y ago

Is irc the primary means of communication for all these projects?

bierjunge 5y ago
IRC and mailing lists are still the most important communication channels for a lot of projects (see: kernel.org and similar projects). It haven't changed for 30+ years and I hope it won't change in the future.
myself248 5y ago
Not sure I'd call it primary for all of them, but it's been a supremely useful, and speedy, support resource whenever I've needed it. Being able to just blindly /join #name_of_project and land somewhere useful (even if unofficial) is like magic.

purerandomness 5y ago

bootstrap

drmpeg 5y ago

gnuradio. We also got hijacked.

asddubs 5y ago

rsync too i believe

est31 5y ago

3.2k commits as of now: https://github.com/search?p=6&q=libera&type=Commits https://github.com/search?p=6&q=libera&type=Commits

app4soft 5y ago
> 3.2k commits as of now: https://github.com/search?p=6&q=libera&type=Commits https://github.com/search?p=6&q=libera&type=Commits Not all "libera" commits on GitHub related to "Libera Chat" There are 470 commits for "libera chat"/"libera.chat"[0,1] [0] https://github.com/search?q=libera+chat&type=Commits https://github.com/search?q=libera+chat&type=Commits [1] https://github.com/search?q=libera.chat&type=Commits https://github.com/search?q=libera.chat&type=Commits
- est31 5y ago
  Indeed but note that if you search for "libera chat" or "libera.chat" (I think they are equivalent, github's search doesn't recognize punctuation I think), it filters out the commits that don't mention both "libera" "chat" in the commit message, and only turns up those that do. In particular, github's commit search does not search diffs, only commit messages, so even if the diff contains libera.chat, it won't turn up until the commit message also mentions it.

dsr_ 5y ago

lopsa - the League of Professional SysAdmins.

MadVikingGod 5y ago

It might be easier to start a list of channels that didn't move.

capableweb 5y ago

> clojure While there is a #clojure on both Freenode and Libera, it's not official as far as I know. Also, https://clojure.org/community/resources https://clojure.org/community/resources still links to the Freenode channel. Most of the Clojure community hangs around on Zulip and Slack (Clojurians) more than IRC anyways.

shakna 5y ago
The Freenode channel says it has moved: > ChanServ: This channel is moving to #clojure on irc.libera.chat

Grinnz 5y ago

Perl

gwillen 5y ago

The Bitcoin community has moved / is moving to Libera; I think #bitcoin was the second-largest freenode channel, after #ubuntu.

that_guy_iain 5y ago

Looking at https://freenode.net/static/img/wikimedia-forced-move.png https://freenode.net/static/img/wikimedia-forced-move.png the forced part is by people on the projects. Honestly, that sort of stuff is the main reason I stopped using IRC. I can completely believe that someone decided to do that and it shows contempt for the community it says they want to have. It's easy to say the community moved when you kick and ban everyone from a channel and create a new channel on a different network. But how many people actually moved? Did they just damage their own community over this?

zmatt 5y ago
While it perhaps seems a bit heavy-handed, it's an easy way to ensure people notice the channel has moved, even if they haven't been following the news, and thus minimize damage to your community. I don't see how this action is "contempt for the community". "How many people actually moved?" .. I'd presume everyone who wants to be in that channel and who has noticed that it has moved. Why would they not? Also note that this example seems to be the exception, many channels that got hijacked merely mentioned the move in topic or even just mentioned libera in topic without any decision to move being finalized (though the hijackings did a great job at finalizing those decisions ;)

Ccecil 5y ago

#reprap, #smoothieware and #kicad are all on Libera now edit: I see kliment beat me to it on 2 of those :)