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That's very interesting to hear. Not least because Steam hosts your multiplayer sessions for any game now, so it could potentially be very seamless. There is so

That's very interesting to hear. Not least because Steam hosts your multiplayer sessions for any game now, so it could potentially be very seamless. There is so much potential here! I hope they work hard on their voice chat feature too, and get everything right from the start. And finally, Linux, using Vulcan I assume!

me_me_me 5y ago
This is very complicated and interconnected market segment. You cant just play games on this device out of the box (some games yes) you need some game devs to adopt it and have releases on this yet another platform. Valve would have to have a dedicated support team and long term strategy for it to become a switch rival. And with Valve track record it will be an abandonware from the get go.
- croon 5y ago
  What support is needed outside of controller support and whatever OS it runs (I'm assuming linux)?
  - viraptor 5y ago
    And Steam have been collecting that data for a while now - each game is tagged with no/partial/full controller support. They know what will work OOTB.
  - me_me_me 5y ago
    They need to secure games on it. Even if this console ends up being PC in small form factor. I dont have switch but if i were to buy a console it would be switch, not steam console. I can play my games on PC, if i get console I'd rather have games made specifically for that form factor, plus Nintendo has amazing catalogue of exclusives. If you judge Valves actins in response to Epic agresively taking their already entrenched market - basically nothing. What chance do they have to compete with Nintendo, or mobiles? I might come across negative, but Valve doesn't make it easier.
    - croon 5y ago
      I understand getting a Switch for the exclusives, but outside of that I wouldn't get a portable console for access to games I couldn't play otherwise, but access to games outside of the normal environment (my desktop PC). If you look at the metacritic list of best games for Switch: https://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/all/switch/filtered https://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/all/... Most games are just ported PC games, which would be playable on a Steam portable console (assuming they're available on linux).
      - me_me_me 5y ago
        Most games are made for consoles first, rarely other way around. Anyhow, you can play on your screen with docked switch. You can play on your couch with steam link, or pc hooked up to tv. I am just not seeing a competitive edge for this device.
        croon 5y ago
        > Most games are made for consoles first, rarely other way around. Except in the actual case I mentioned with the list, where almost all of the cross-platform ones are made for PC first, from Divinity to Hades to Undertale to Inside, Steamworld, Shovel Knight, Hollow Knight, Ori, Bastion, Dead Cells, Into the Breach, Fez, etc etc etc. Seeing how basically all games that aren't first party or specific exclusives are lighter (hardware wise) PC games actually speaks to a huge market for those games on a portable device. > Anyhow, you can play on your screen with docked switch. You can play on your couch with steam link, or pc hooked up to tv. Playing on the couch would be competing with Xbox and Playstation, not Switch, which as you said is already a solved problem. This would be for anywhere you play your Switch undocked, and you don't want a Switch for whatever reason (likely more indies, emulators, "apps").
        me_me_me 5y ago
        > This would be for anywhere you play your Switch undocked, and you don't want a Switch for whatever reason (likely more indies, emulators, "apps"). And now we came the full circle. Back to the original point. I don't believe Valve is capable of competition at this point. I would require serious people and money effort to create this 'whatever reason'. Because I gave you a big one for Switch and I don't see one for Valve (obscure small indie games that don't get ported to Switch is hardly a selling point).
  - imtringued 5y ago
    People buy consoles because they expect a perfect out of the box experience. If you try to play a GPU intensive 3D shooter on the handheld the performance or graphical quality will be terrible. The game must support full screen and the UI shouldn't be too small to become unusable on a small screen.

me_me_me 5y ago

This is very complicated and interconnected market segment. You cant just play games on this device out of the box (some games yes) you need some game devs to adopt it and have releases on this yet another platform. Valve would have to have a dedicated support team and long term strategy for it to become a switch rival. And with Valve track record it will be an abandonware from the get go.

croon 5y ago
What support is needed outside of controller support and whatever OS it runs (I'm assuming linux)?
- viraptor 5y ago
  And Steam have been collecting that data for a while now - each game is tagged with no/partial/full controller support. They know what will work OOTB.
- me_me_me 5y ago
  They need to secure games on it. Even if this console ends up being PC in small form factor. I dont have switch but if i were to buy a console it would be switch, not steam console. I can play my games on PC, if i get console I'd rather have games made specifically for that form factor, plus Nintendo has amazing catalogue of exclusives. If you judge Valves actins in response to Epic agresively taking their already entrenched market - basically nothing. What chance do they have to compete with Nintendo, or mobiles? I might come across negative, but Valve doesn't make it easier.
  - croon 5y ago
    I understand getting a Switch for the exclusives, but outside of that I wouldn't get a portable console for access to games I couldn't play otherwise, but access to games outside of the normal environment (my desktop PC). If you look at the metacritic list of best games for Switch: https://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/all/switch/filtered https://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/all/... Most games are just ported PC games, which would be playable on a Steam portable console (assuming they're available on linux).
    - me_me_me 5y ago
      Most games are made for consoles first, rarely other way around. Anyhow, you can play on your screen with docked switch. You can play on your couch with steam link, or pc hooked up to tv. I am just not seeing a competitive edge for this device.
      - croon 5y ago
        > Most games are made for consoles first, rarely other way around. Except in the actual case I mentioned with the list, where almost all of the cross-platform ones are made for PC first, from Divinity to Hades to Undertale to Inside, Steamworld, Shovel Knight, Hollow Knight, Ori, Bastion, Dead Cells, Into the Breach, Fez, etc etc etc. Seeing how basically all games that aren't first party or specific exclusives are lighter (hardware wise) PC games actually speaks to a huge market for those games on a portable device. > Anyhow, you can play on your screen with docked switch. You can play on your couch with steam link, or pc hooked up to tv. Playing on the couch would be competing with Xbox and Playstation, not Switch, which as you said is already a solved problem. This would be for anywhere you play your Switch undocked, and you don't want a Switch for whatever reason (likely more indies, emulators, "apps").
        me_me_me 5y ago
        > This would be for anywhere you play your Switch undocked, and you don't want a Switch for whatever reason (likely more indies, emulators, "apps"). And now we came the full circle. Back to the original point. I don't believe Valve is capable of competition at this point. I would require serious people and money effort to create this 'whatever reason'. Because I gave you a big one for Switch and I don't see one for Valve (obscure small indie games that don't get ported to Switch is hardly a selling point).
- imtringued 5y ago
  People buy consoles because they expect a perfect out of the box experience. If you try to play a GPU intensive 3D shooter on the handheld the performance or graphical quality will be terrible. The game must support full screen and the UI shouldn't be too small to become unusable on a small screen.